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26. Primary challenges like this only give the other side ammunition. Republicans will win.

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I Hate to Say This But DNC Vice Chair David Hogg's New Maneuver Is Ill-Advised--and Worse-Timed [View all] mcar Apr 16 OP

Never liked him nini Apr 16 #1

I was glad to see a younger person elected to DNC leadership mcar Apr 16 #2

It's more constructive to contact David Hogg and tell him exactly what you're saying here. He's young. He'll listen. ancianita Apr 16 #47

The young never listen krawhitham Apr 17 #95

He's an individual, not the faceless "young" & we won't know until we try. He may have been listening to... Hekate Apr 17 #106

Well said, mcar... Cha Apr 16 #78

I worked Bobby Kennedy's campaign when I was 11 nini Apr 17 #99

That must have been an amazing experience! mcar Apr 17 #103

It was a learning experience and I am still heartbroken how it ended nini Apr 18 #114

I said he was not a good choice for vice chair Meowmee Apr 16 #16

He was a great choice. I fully support his trying to bring in new persepectives to safe Blue seats. Celerity Apr 16 #28

No seat is a "safe Blue seat" with Mango Mussolini in charge. Trumpistas have money to burn... Hekate Apr 17 #108

The status quo & 'doff the cap to ANY and ALL incumbents, no matter what' stances have been a disaster, and have helped Celerity Apr 17 #113

It is hard to have hope these days when so many people can't see through these narcissists nini Apr 18 #115

The dnc has to take care of this but my guess is they won't Meowmee Apr 19 #118

He was just on MSNBC, and again set the record straight. He is NOT going after any Democrats in any remotely vulnerable Celerity Apr 16 #3

Hogg is young and idealistic SocialDemocrat61 Apr 16 #6

I agree. We win on the issues. mjvpi Apr 16 #24

I heard the interview. TomSlick Apr 16 #8

Red herring. He is not going after any Dems in vulnerable seats. And as was pointed out in the interview, other DNC Celerity Apr 16 #13

The DNC ought not take sides in primary elections. TomSlick Apr 16 #17

I disagree and fully support Hogg's attempt to try to bring in new thoughts and perspectives via a democratic (small d) Celerity Apr 16 #20

Imagine that! Democrats who disagree with each other. TomSlick Apr 16 #22

Hogg has and will be supporting Democrats, and some of those Dems will be challenging other Dems in a Democratic primary Celerity Apr 16 #29

I hope it all works out and no "safe" Democratic seats are lost. TomSlick Apr 16 #45

Where will they throw their support? To Republicans or sit it out? Bluethroughu Apr 16 #53

Democrats can always be expected to attack each other. TomSlick Apr 16 #56

I don't think you are correct on that. Bluethroughu Apr 16 #59

You are correct. We shall see. TomSlick Apr 16 #61

I totally agree with you. The tired "new perspectives" translates Nixie Apr 16 #76

Then tell him exactly what you're saying here. Do it. Don't just criticize. ancianita Apr 16 #48

I'm sorry. I misunderstood. TomSlick Apr 16 #66

I'm giving you, TomSlick, some constructive discussion information. ancianita Apr 16 #68

I heard the interview on MSNBC. TomSlick Apr 16 #75

I see. Welp, ancianita Apr 16 #81

IMO going after Dem incumbents is a mistake. So if the candidate he backs to challenge... brush Apr 16 #62

Why go after fellow Democrats to begin with when there are literally hundreds of Republicans he could be challenging? W_HAMILTON Apr 16 #11

We can walk and chew gum at the same time. We need new approaches and new persepctives, and a primary challenge Celerity Apr 16 #15

Primary challenges like this only give the other side ammunition. Republicans will win. Walleye Apr 16 #26

Disagree, as we are talking about safe Blue seats only, one where a Rethug has no shot at winning. Celerity Apr 16 #31

Off Topic My Friend BOSSHOG Apr 16 #27

I prefer (for celerity's definition and synonyms) swiftness, legerity, vivacity, expeditiousness, alacrity Celerity Apr 16 #38

Can they? Because I sure don't see these upstart progressives winning in many purple/red areas. W_HAMILTON Apr 16 #33

But they will give the Republicans plenty of soundbites and ammunition in their campaigns against our incumbents Walleye Apr 16 #35

people have career aspirations cadoman Apr 16 #70

We need a lot more like David Hogg. Thanks for setting the record straight Cel. Autumn Apr 17 #105

There was a lot of pearl clutching when AOC won as a primary challenger HereForTheParty Apr 16 #4

Yep. AOC replaced someone working as a banking industry protector. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 16 #10

Members of the anti-progressive crew really come out hard against AOC in the 2020 NY-14 Democratic primary, where they Celerity Apr 16 #51

The pearl clutching metaphor is not working so well. We are genuinely scared now. Walleye Apr 16 #36

Hogg and AOC seem very different to me PedroXimenez Apr 16 #37

Then as a Democrat, tell him what you think. ancianita Apr 16 #49

The guy running against Fetterman in the Primary was a young man JI7 Apr 16 #5

IMO Harris just preferred Walz's style cadoman Apr 16 #72

Respectfully disagree. H2O Man Apr 17 #109

I wonder if all safe districts are the same Raven123 Apr 16 #7

I don't see how this would open things for primaries that wouldn't otherwise happen EdmondDantes_ Apr 16 #9

AOC is used JustAnotherGen Apr 17 #101

If we make it there, I would like to stillcool Apr 16 #12

I don't see any other Dem in leadership doing anything... SnoopDog Apr 16 #14

At least 4 centrist, corporate-friendly Dems tried to scupper Biden's pharma cost reductions. These are the type of Dems Celerity Apr 16 #18

Exactly Celerity...! SnoopDog Apr 16 #21

thank you for the kind words (I am London raised, 'scupper' is far more commonly used in the UK than the US) Celerity Apr 16 #39

English seadogs like Francis Drake and Jack Sparrow did a lot of scuppering thought crime Apr 16 #46

You are on it. cachukis Apr 16 #32

thanks! Celerity Apr 16 #40

Thank YOU! This is much appreciated information. ancianita Apr 16 #50

yw! Celerity Apr 16 #55

+1 leftstreet Apr 16 #44

We could replace every single elected Democrat at the federal level right now with Hogg clones and... W_HAMILTON Apr 16 #42

+1 emulatorloo Apr 16 #73

It's so unbelievable that this message has not sunk in yet. Nixie Apr 16 #80

Then the clones would be called corrupt establishment and have to be primaried. It would never end. betsuni Apr 17 #82

The truth, but some people won't acknowledge it Meowmee Apr 17 #89

Yes! mcar Apr 17 #97

I fully expect this to fail in spectacular fashion Mountainguy Apr 16 #19

Yeah, the criminal fucks in the White House are destroying our country. Initech Apr 16 #23

Absolutely blue-wave Apr 16 #67

Incumbents will need more money, then the screaming about being beholden to donors billionaires oligarchy betsuni Apr 16 #25

Democratic Committee Member here JustAnotherGen Apr 16 #30

More power to him ibegurpard Apr 16 #34

There is a new generation that see things we don't. cachukis Apr 16 #41

Yes, and true because they're facing a future we won't be in. ancianita Apr 16 #58

Because what this Party needs is more of the same! DJ Synikus Makisimus Apr 16 #43

Growth and change are inevitable in order to live. Bluethroughu Apr 16 #57

hogg not good spokeseman. Groundhawg Apr 16 #52

He's too new for this kind of rush to judgment. ancianita Apr 16 #60

Someone or something needs to reinvigorate our party. AllyCat Apr 16 #54

hogg is what the democrats need moonshinegnomie Apr 16 #63

I thought we were supposed to be blue-wave Apr 16 #64

He is young and passionate bottomofthehill Apr 16 #65

hogg is 25 moonshinegnomie Apr 16 #69

The strategy should be to elect more Democrats all over. Fact: incumbents get re-elected because voters emulatorloo Apr 16 #71

More and "better" democrats. Buzz cook Apr 16 #74

My core principle since becoming politically aware around high school/voting age... Ol Janx Spirit Apr 16 #77

I suspect ITAL Apr 17 #86

That will be the case so long as that's what we accept and even come to expect... Ol Janx Spirit Apr 17 #90

I think it's just as much ITAL Apr 17 #93

That isn't always a bad thing. Many people rise to prominence in their community... Ol Janx Spirit Apr 17 #98

He is right Blue Full Moon Apr 16 #79

I'm already done giving any body another dime Historic NY Apr 17 #83

I stopped a long time ago and they will never get another penny from me Meowmee Apr 17 #88

If this keeps up, the Rethugs won't have to worry about 2026... Behind the Aegis Apr 17 #84

No kidding. MorbidButterflyTat Apr 17 #102

I support our democratic leadership to take steps to rid corruption within our party SSJVegeta Apr 17 #85

Exactly who do you think is corrupt within our party? W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #91

Whoever the Democratic party officials see fit to primary. The democratic party can make that determination. SSJVegeta Apr 17 #92

Any actual corrupt Democrats would be run out of the party by the voters themselves (see: Menendez). W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #112

Fetterman LW1977 Apr 17 #110

Fetterman is the type of unproven but self-proclaimed """progressive""" that Hogg wants more of. W_HAMILTON Apr 17 #111

He is EXACTLY what we need! LostOne4Ever Apr 17 #87

I'd applaud an effort to unseat a safe incumbent in MI-12 JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 17 #94

I love David Hogg. Sky Jewels Apr 17 #96

I'm Team Hogg Prairie Gates Apr 17 #100

What "safe incumbant" is he running against? Ping Tung Apr 17 #104

As always, Charlie Pierce is on the nose Hekate Apr 17 #107

Polling says something has to change. mn9driver Apr 18 #116

Right there with you mcar. William769 Apr 18 #117