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135. THIS !! People don't understand we're not liked cause we're offering what people want just the last sane choice

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DNC gives David Hogg an ultimatum [View all] RandySF Apr 2025 OP

This shouldn't be necessary DFW Apr 2025 #1

Agree. I absolutely despise Democratic circular firing squads -- for once in our lives, let MAGAGOP do it. Hekate Apr 2025 #120

Good to hear. sheshe2 Apr 2025 #2

Agreed, She! SheltieLover Apr 2025 #9

The DNC must have poor judgment...Take Tulsi Gabbard as Vice Chair for example. lostnfound Apr 2025 #27

Primarying a sitting Dem for one Hogg prefers is not smart and doesn't... brush Apr 2025 #106

Hogg has grown to big for his britches Katnip. Apr 2025 #164

Excellent Example roscoeroscoe Apr 2025 #156

Go David jaymac Apr 2025 #39

You can have no one but brilliant candidates wryter2000 Apr 2025 #52

...and if he was assisting red dog candidates over progressives? LudwigPastorius Apr 2025 #76

The Fact Remains - Far Left Dems Can Only Win in Deep Blue Districts Indykatie Apr 2025 #82

Bernie's crowds DO translate to votes karynnj Apr 2025 #170

We don't have to be listening to Schumer and Carvill to Disagree w Hogg on his strategy electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #125

That is true! ShazzieB Apr 2025 #144

Change required yankee87 Apr 2025 #142

It is impossible to know if Bernie would have done better than HRC karynnj Apr 2025 #169

Member of the DNC should NOT be taking sides in primaries LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #48

So AM I! TY, LMPV! Cha Apr 2025 #100

Agreed. and isn't vice-chair Hogg collecting DNC pay on top of the 6-figure salary he gets from his PAC? brush Apr 2025 #153

I am with Martin on this. I understand how Hogg feels True Blue American Apr 2025 #3

business as usual for Democrats will be disastrous too Skittles Apr 2025 #14

Absolutely! H2O Man Apr 2025 #87

I don't completely disagree... electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #127

THIS !! People don't understand we're not liked cause we're offering what people want just the last sane choice uponit7771 Apr 2025 #135

Sherrod Brown called me, and I was surprised how local his focus was DFW Apr 2025 #102

It is not good enough for someone to say, "I'm a progressive! I give the purity tests around here because betsuni Apr 2025 #105

Indeed. I abandoned that stance before I was 20. DFW Apr 2025 #114

I'd like to hear more about that... electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #133

Some here seem to think that effectiveness in Washington is measured in numbers of people attending a rally in Idaho DFW Apr 2025 #148

Getting rid of even a small part of our government Haggard Celine Apr 2025 #134

And the motives of those who WOULD use a chainsaw are motives we have the right and duty to examine DFW Apr 2025 #145

I love the workhorses who get real progress done, not the show horses. betsuni Apr 2025 #140

Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now. DFW Apr 2025 #115

Yes, Sherrod True Blue American Apr 2025 #149

I believe that all incumbents should be challenged ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #4

That's a good way of shooting ourselves in the foot. Challenging a good incumbent makes the R's work in the general pnwmom Apr 2025 #10

Really? AOC challenged a (D) incumbent when she first ran and defeated him. Was that shooting our foot? ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #73

We can thank Ted Kennedy's challenge of Jimmy Carter for Carter's loss to Ronald the actor Reagan. pnwmom Apr 2025 #96

Well, that and Reagan's October Surprise. Chemical Bill Apr 2025 #108

Wrong, Jimmy Carter did not lose because of Ted Kennedy's challenge, because Carter actually won in the Primary ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #109

Of course Carter won the primary, that's why he could run against Reagan. But he'd spent the primary months having pnwmom Apr 2025 #116

Sorry, but Ted Kennedy did not have this much power ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #118

We'll never know. But we DO know that he fought Carter up to and including the convention, pnwmom Apr 2025 #121

AOC's challenge didn't suck up Dem dollars that could have gone to defeat Republicans. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2025 #107

My point was that AOC challenged another (D) incumbent. ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #110

Not right now when The Stakes are TOO High! electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #123

Yup, let's settle for second best, to regain the house with JV team. Got it. n/t aggiesal Apr 2025 #124

Did you not read my Full post?.... electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #126

Only the best play on the Varsity ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #163

Not right now J-9 Apr 2025 #159

With some Frosting on top. n/t aggiesal Apr 2025 #162

The stakes weren't as high at that point. electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #129

That's why you need the best, not the JV team. n/t aggiesal Apr 2025 #146

In a deep blue district. We should not force out incumbents who've proven they can beat... brush Apr 2025 #158

If the incumbent is not the best choice, hell yes they should be challenged, safe seat or not. ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #161

Incumbent means they've proven they can beat republicans. brush Apr 2025 #165

I'll agree that the incumbent proved he.could beat the (R) candidate during that election. ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #167

But an unproven candidate who the unproven David Hogg wants can? brush Apr 2025 #168

So this is about David Hogg. I never mentioned Hogg in any of my posts ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #172

I'm mentioning Hogg because he's vice-chair of the DNC which is supposed to remain neutral... brush Apr 2025 #173

Well I'm not vice chair of the DNC, so I don't have that problem ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #174

Challenge those who have proven they can beat republicans. Got it. brush Apr 2025 #175

Beating a (R) doesn't mean they can beat every (R). Got that? We're never going to agree on this subject. ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #176

Got it. Replace them whit someone who hasn't. brush Apr 2025 #177

If that's that kind of representation you want, someone that can just beat a (R), then have at it ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #178

I'm talking about regaining the House majority to stop trump... brush Apr 2025 #180

Stop stalking me. I told you we are never going to agree on this subject. ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #182

Me stalking you? Seems the other way around to me. brush Apr 2025 #183

This is the 3rd time I'm asking to stop replying to me. n/t aggiesal Apr 2025 #184

Incumbents don't automatically receive the nomination. W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #13

No they don't, and candidates do challenge them in every election. JohnSJ Apr 2025 #16

That is not true whopis01 Apr 2025 #42

Are you saying that third party candidates don't challenge incumbents, because JohnSJ Apr 2025 #46

No - I am not sure what you misread to give you that impression whopis01 Apr 2025 #62

I thought it H2O Man Apr 2025 #86

AOC wryter2000 Apr 2025 #53

Did she have the support Mossfern Apr 2025 #59

I don't believe so wryter2000 Apr 2025 #75

No. H2O Man Apr 2025 #88

I did not say it did not happen. whopis01 Apr 2025 #63

Her platform JustAnotherGen Apr 2025 #111

In many cases they do whopis01 Apr 2025 #44

When the (D) party at the local level tell any challenging candidate ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #47

I find that interesting because when a representative doesn't vote the party line they get attacked here MichMan Apr 2025 #78

The way I see it, I expect my Representative to initiate legislation to benefit their constituency ... aggiesal Apr 2025 #112

Please. Incumbents have proven they can win against repubiicans. brush Apr 2025 #157

They are doing his career a good service by saving him from his Nixie Apr 2025 #5

So it was fine to be biased before LostOne4Ever Apr 2025 #6

Biased before? RandySF Apr 2025 #8

From the excerpt: LostOne4Ever Apr 2025 #11

I thought the rule change proposal came about because this is the first time a DNC official has stated that he intends WDLAL Apr 2025 #37

When is the last time you donated to the DNC? W_HAMILTON Apr 2025 #15

Back in 2024 LostOne4Ever Apr 2025 #17

I have never done phone banking for a primary, only for the general election, and I never had to say JohnSJ Apr 2025 #19

The phone banking I did was the general election LostOne4Ever Apr 2025 #20

Were you calling from a list of people who were registered as Democrats from the previous JohnSJ Apr 2025 #21

I think it was a combination LostOne4Ever Apr 2025 #22

That was a challenging task for you then. We also left voice mails. I think the biggest problem with JohnSJ Apr 2025 #23

I have thought the same thing LostOne4Ever Apr 2025 #24

My hats off to you for your perseverance JohnSJ Apr 2025 #68

Good on you! And you don't have to have a s a d to be nervous calling.... electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #130

That's been my experience Mossfern Apr 2025 #64

I have the same feeling Moss JohnSJ Apr 2025 #69

Good. I remember when David Hogg pushing for gun legislation played the "both sides game", when JohnSJ Apr 2025 #7

+1. Most people survived sudden traumatic events (e.g. shootings, accidents) because of sheer luck. dalton99a Apr 2025 #38

Indeed, those are his only "credentials" Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #50

Both sides? Did he really? Wasn't following closely. electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #131

Why doesn't Hogg run for office himself ? JI7 Apr 2025 #12

Exactly. Go beat a Republican before he lectures actual Nixie Apr 2025 #18

Because that will take a lot of work. Patton French Apr 2025 #33

He was too young to run for anything meaningful Polybius Apr 2025 #74

Lots of seasoned politicians started out in state or local elected offices MichMan Apr 2025 #79

True. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #93

Wouldn't running for lower level office be helpful when running for higher office ? JI7 Apr 2025 #117

I'm sure It can be helpful. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #137

I'm talking about running now in the elections coming up JI7 Apr 2025 #139

He could be planning to run, for all we know. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #143

During this awful time we do not need anyone True Blue American Apr 2025 #154

I don't find Hogg particularly meaningful Polybius Apr 2025 #122

I was thinking that. Certainly meaningful to those local and State constituents! electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #128

Yes, seems like funding would be no problem. betsuni Apr 2025 #85

This message was self-deleted by its author ShazzieB Apr 2025 #90

He may holding out until he's old enough to run for Congress. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #91

It's a shame to see the firing squad approach on the Dem side flor-de-jasmim Apr 2025 #25

Great phrase: "fertilizing a green lawn". yorkster Apr 2025 #55

The party of the people allow people to decide. bucolic_frolic Apr 2025 #26

Only those who vote decide. AOC won her first primary with 5% of the district voting DFW Apr 2025 #147

Good point that people don't seem to remember or ignore. betsuni Apr 2025 #166

Excellent Patton French Apr 2025 #28

Good, I hope it works 😁 Meowmee Apr 2025 #29

David Hogg is correct. Blue Full Moon Apr 2025 #30

Those believing CTs about Status Quo Elite Establishment rigging primaries think Hogg is correct and betsuni Apr 2025 #31

Yes. ShazzieB Apr 2025 #92

Here we go again. Learning nothing. Rewarding status quo and not vision or boldness. Nanjeanne Apr 2025 #32

"Safe blue seats" is the key phrase to me. Phoenix61 Apr 2025 #34

We could do more if we instead focused on getting a majority and gaining control, no? Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #72

The DNC will never get any money from me alarimer Apr 2025 #35

Democrats don't rig elections, are not corrupted by corporations, lobbyists, donors. betsuni Apr 2025 #45

According to Open Secrets..... IcyPeas Apr 2025 #77

What do you think a lobbyist is? Al Franken will explain to you: betsuni Apr 2025 #84

They Don't rig elections; that's absolutely true, but some may kowtow to corporations too much... electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #132

Amen! comradebillyboy Apr 2025 #155

I'm all for primaries, and in fact they are an essential feature of our Democracy. But I'm not for Hogg Scrivener7 Apr 2025 #36

Good. Oopsie Daisy Apr 2025 #40

The wisdom of time, age and experience I reckon GusBob Apr 2025 #41

Yes. I want the DNC to find and field viable candidates in Republican-held districts. IL Dem Apr 2025 #43

'David Hogg Has to Decide': Irate Democrats Want Hogg to End His Primary Gambit -- Or They Want Him Gone LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #49

Good. n/t wryter2000 Apr 2025 #51

So dumb ibegurpard Apr 2025 #54

Dissent is necessary in a democracy. Ping Tung Apr 2025 #56

Hogg is being paid a salary by his pac LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #57

Yep I noticed that when I looked it up last week Meowmee Apr 2025 #61

Those numbers look awful. Is that typical? Bonx Apr 2025 #80

Those numbers are NOT typical LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #89

Bulldog78932701 is a MAGAt transphobic antivaxxer shitstirrer Celerity Apr 2025 #94

Is the information on the PAC expenditures false? MichMan Apr 2025 #101

Red herring. DUers do not need to post MAGAts as a source of information. Celerity Apr 2025 #104

It wouldn't be the DNC if it wasn't doubling down on punching left nt Rob H. Apr 2025 #58

Yep. Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #66

If they were so unbiased themselves, we would have been talking about Senator Jeff Jackson's re election campaign ms liberty Apr 2025 #60

Oh, FFS ... Sky Jewels Apr 2025 #65

I totally support David Hogg... FarPoint Apr 2025 #67

You could always donate to the PAC he runs called "Leaders We Deserve" MichMan Apr 2025 #97

I think David Hogg should run for a congressional seat. MineralMan Apr 2025 #70

Then we will continue to lose. Passages Apr 2025 #71

Power sounds worried Sympthsical Apr 2025 #81

Hogg is part of the elite Establishment now, the power. Up to him how to use it. betsuni Apr 2025 #98

yup, they've got their big guns out Skittles Apr 2025 #99

they have good reason to be Celerity Apr 2025 #103

They're forever "working on our messaging" Sympthsical Apr 2025 #113

Actual change? How about the Existential Differences Right Now between Republicans, and Democrats. electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #138

I'm not the most liberal or progressive person there is Sympthsical Apr 2025 #141

Ok, I can see the possibility in safe seriously blue districts. electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #150

Dems always need to do more work, out reach etc but.... electric_blue68 Apr 2025 #136

DNC Chair Ken Martin-Voters Should Pick their Candidates, Not Party Bosses LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #83

Here is more on money Hogg is being paid by his PAC and the fact that Hogg may be using DNC mailing lists LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #95

Good wildflowergardener Apr 2025 #119

First we have to see if the change passes. SSJVegeta Apr 2025 #151

I have problems with the DNC, Sneederbunk Apr 2025 #152

Who needs David Hogg when we have the Justice Democrats primarying good Democrats? LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2025 #160

Good. nt LexVegas Apr 2025 #171

He's looking to springboard his carreer. This is not the time to be disruptive or in disarray. marble falls Apr 2025 #179

If the voting body JustAnotherGen Apr 2025 #181