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Bo Zarts

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Mon Apr 28, 2025, 11:58 AM Apr 2025

On 9/9/2024 I stopped in Amarillo to get week-old stitches out at an ER facility .. got the bill today: $20,000+ [View all]

On Labor Day, 9/2/2024, I had busted my upper lip in a fall at the lookout tower in the Idaho wilderness. Went to the ER in a small town in the Idaho panhandle, where a moonlighting doc from Coeur d'Alene put eight sutures in my lip. When I told him that I'd be leaving to drive back home to SC on the 4th, he said to stop at an urgent care or ER anywhere along the route after about seven days to get the stitches out. The Idaho doc said that most facilities don't even charge to remove stitches.

So I planned my driving so that I could be at a urgent care facility in Amarillo, Texas, bright and early on Monday morning, 9/9/2024. I now know that what I thought was an urgent care facility was actually an ER associated with the medical center on the west side of Amarillo. It was within easy walking distance of the hotel where I spent that Sunday night.

The Amarillo ER doc asked me if the ER in ST. Maries, Idaho, had done a head CT scan. They had not. He ordered a CT scan, that was done right there in the ER facility. Results: NEGATIVE.

Then the Amarillo ER doc refused to remove the eight sutures because of encrusted blood in my mustache. He instructed me to soak it as I continued my drive, and to stop at an urgent care clinic somewhere down the road in a couple of days. The Amarillo ER had my Medicare and insurance info, and checked me out with no balance due.

So I stopped at an urgent care in Gainesville, Texas. They would not remove the sutures because they said it would require numbing, which they didn't do. Same with urgent care in Dennison, Texas. I did not get the sutures removed until I got to an ER in Monroe, Louisiana, on Wednesday, 9/11/24!

The nurses at St. Francis Hospital in Monroe absolutely could not believe that the doc in Amarillo would not remove the sutures. Or that two urgent care facilities wouldn't remove them. I had waited in the St. Francis ER no more than about ten minutes before getting called back to a nurses station, where it took a nurse all of about 60 seconds to remove the stitches .. without me feeling a thing. The charge by the St. Francis ER? ZERO!

So today, Monday April 28, a bill shows up in the mail from the Amarillo ER. The total for all services was over $20,000! Fortunately, Medicare and my insurance paid all but about $140 of it.

What a rip-off of the system! The doc in Amarillo ordered a head CT scan that I did not need (no symptoms, no pain, etc), and then would not remove the sutures!

BTW: The doc in St. Maries, Idaho, did not think .. based on his examination and my history .. that any CT or MR imaging was necessary. And Medicare and my insurance covered 100% of the ER visit in St. Maries.

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I had a general anesthesia operation a few years ago. Never saw a bill, not a cent. Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2025 #1
Socialism! Socialism! Thank god we don't have that in the US. Jim__ Apr 2025 #10
My father had a nearly year long hospital stay Katnip. Apr 2025 #60
Let me guess . . . Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #2
K&R CountAllVotes Apr 2025 #3
Kick! Heidi Apr 2025 #4
Outrageous. Ritabert Apr 2025 #5
First I advise to never go to an er for something like this Meowmee Apr 2025 #6
The distinction between urgent and non hospital ER is sometimes blurry JCMach1 Apr 2025 #11
We also need control of all costs, but yes truth in billing is desperately needed also 😁 Meowmee Apr 2025 #14
Sounds like someone is milking the Medicare system progressoid Apr 2025 #15
Medicare is the only thing that put in price controls but I believe W or Bush Meowmee Apr 2025 #17
Most countries have price controls, Americans get hosed JCMach1 Apr 2025 #38
Price control everything and put everyone on salary period Meowmee Apr 2025 #56
Medicare and your insurance paid for it? The full amount? Or, do they pay a discounted fee? Jim__ Apr 2025 #7
You are very correct. If a place accepts Medicare assignment, they know how much Wonder Why Apr 2025 #20
Unless it is a Medicare Advantage plan - Ms. Toad Apr 2025 #58
This is true. The entire system needs fixing Joinfortmill Apr 2025 #39
Last Christmas I was visiting my brother when my sister got an earring stuck in her ear dsc Apr 2025 #8
Amarillo UpInArms Apr 2025 #9
Full of Republicans on SSI Ponietz Apr 2025 #13
Your first mistake: Entering Texas. Sneederbunk Apr 2025 #12
S.O.S. Iamscrewed Apr 2025 #16
Couldn't take suturers out with out numbing!!!!! Old Crank Apr 2025 #18
Sounds like waste, fraud and abuse Mblaze Apr 2025 #19
Lookit that! Best Health Care in the World! Brenda Apr 2025 #21
I had an automobile accident after which i was having chest pains. NNadir Apr 2025 #22
Wow, a CT and ELG do not cost $95k. That is theft. nt SunSeeker Apr 2025 #33
Find a Qi Tam trial lawyer ... Tarzanrock Apr 2025 #23
Won't do any good. Doctors and hospitals charge astronomical fees because in the 1970s Medicare and other insurers Silent Type Apr 2025 #40
I'm wondering if you could have refused the CT scan? FakeNoose Apr 2025 #24
Sure, patients can refuse any treatment, except markodochartaigh Apr 2025 #41
The thing about getting a CT scan a week after a potential head injury, Crunchy Frog Apr 2025 #44
Thank you for your opinion, doctor. markodochartaigh Apr 2025 #48
What a horror story! Martin68 Apr 2025 #25
It's NOT patients who do Medicare fraud, it's the BIG MEDICAL CORPORATIONS doing the fraud Attilatheblond Apr 2025 #26
I have noticed an increasing amount DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #27
Veterinary medicine has gotten the same way. nt leftyladyfrommo Apr 2025 #54
For many more years DENVERPOPS Apr 2025 #57
I am glad that most of it is covered by Medicare senseandsensibility Apr 2025 #28
Get an itemized bill Warpy Apr 2025 #29
Moral of the story . . . LovelyStuff Apr 2025 #30
My old horse doc was great for stuff like that. multigraincracker Apr 2025 #31
Amarillo mamacita75 Apr 2025 #32
That's outrageous. For future reference, it's easy to remove your own stitches. Vinca Apr 2025 #34
outrageous. barbtries Apr 2025 #35
UnFing believable Joinfortmill Apr 2025 #36
It's quite OK when racist redneck republican doctors rip off Medicare and US taxpayers wolfie001 Apr 2025 #37
Republican BigMin28 Apr 2025 #51
Florida once again wolfie001 Apr 2025 #61
Sounds like Medicare fraud on their part. Crunchy Frog Apr 2025 #42
Medicare will cover the service. But they'll pay less than $500 and the ER has to write-off the remainder. Silent Type Apr 2025 #49
My Recent Experience Supports This ProfessorGAC Apr 2025 #43
medical industrial complex. pansypoo53219 Apr 2025 #45
We do not have a health care system. markodochartaigh Apr 2025 #47
I started my nursing career in markodochartaigh Apr 2025 #46
Enshittification contaminates every crevice of this broken world Ponietz Apr 2025 #55
When I needed sutures taken out in 1963 John Farmer Apr 2025 #50
"wealthcare" - gotta keep those billionaires CEOS in gilded houses and yachts and keep stockholders happy. nt CousinIT Apr 2025 #52
The CT scan was obviously to see if you were pregnant. Turbineguy Apr 2025 #53
October '24 in Athens Greece my Dr. bill $150 for meds and visit. live love laugh Apr 2025 #59
So sorry to hear about your fall. I would have... littlemissmartypants Apr 2025 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author wyn borkins Apr 2025 #63
We need Medicare for ALL! Clouds Passing Apr 2025 #64
never go to get stitched removed. Javaman Apr 2025 #65
wow- what an ordeal you went through (and so unnecessary). sorry about that. glad you only had to orleans Apr 2025 #66
Rip off Timeflyer Apr 2025 #67
Deregulated capitalism at work. It's in its nature. KPN Apr 2025 #68
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