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WSHazel

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6. I am more a live and let live kind of guy
Tue Apr 29, 2025, 01:29 PM
Apr 29

1) I think that these men feel they have no power at all. Roughly 50% more women graduate from college than men now, and have been for about 10 years, and more women have been graduating college going back to the late 90's I believe. In a technological, knowledge based economy, many of these men are behind the 8 ball before they reach 25. This is not a sign of young men thinking they have power, this is a sign of many men giving up.

2) We don't need to like each other, but I don't think demonizing men, and especially young men, because they listen to Joe Rogan or don't have a girlfriend accomplishes anything. I think they have figured out they are struggling in life without libs calling them names.

3) Many young men are in crisis. Cultural and technological changes are creating dislocations and many of these men are having trouble getting started on their adult life. Attacking them just drives them to demagogues like Trump. This is a problem around the world, not just in America, and finding a place in our society for them should be something that liberals embrace.

4) The last 40 years have not been kind to the unskilled, working class men, and you are seeing that with the GenX working class in particular, which is very heavily Trump. I am not going full Fetterman and saying we should twist the country in knots to appease this group, but we need to recognize that there have been social and economic changes that have impacted them, and their families.

5) I think the corollary is true also. Democrats do much better with college-educated men, and that is a demo that Democrats should embrace rather than drive off. I don't care if they want to watch MMA or listen to Joe Rogan if they vote blue on Election Day.

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Thoughts on "bro culture" [View all] RJ-MacReady Apr 29 OP
Lots of flavors to this...the tech bros, the trad bros, the hick bros....only justice is they have a hard time... dutch777 Apr 29 #1
You're suggesting using bro culture's insults (beta male) to take down the manosphere? maxsolomon Apr 29 #2
I used their term as a joke RJ-MacReady Apr 29 #3
"Thorough deconstructions" aren't going to resonate with "bros" maxsolomon Apr 29 #8
We definitely need to engage there EdmondDantes_ Apr 29 #4
agreed RJ-MacReady Apr 29 #5
I am more a live and let live kind of guy WSHazel Apr 29 #6
1) Yes. More women do go to college. YET men STILL Scrivener7 Apr 29 #9
How did this approach work in 2016 and 2024? WSHazel Apr 29 #14
This isn't an approach, and this isn't a race to be a bigger victim. It has nothing to do Scrivener7 Apr 29 #19
Who is responsible blubunyip Apr 29 #12
I think people continue to misinterpret MAGA WSHazel Apr 29 #16
Building coalitions blubunyip Apr 29 #21
These are the same crybabies who won't support labor unions leftstreet Apr 29 #13
Some of them are in unions WSHazel Apr 29 #15
I wonder why more women are graduating from college Wicked Blue Apr 29 #18
They don't need to. When they get out into the workforce, they still make considerably more than women. Scrivener7 Apr 29 #20
There's an old saying in women's circles... haele Apr 29 #7
They are all just money grubbing weasels JustAnotherGen Apr 29 #10
"Bro culture" is a contradiction in terms. (nt) Paladin Apr 29 #11
It's toxic masculinity wrapped around a cult LS0999 Apr 29 #17
exactly RJ-MacReady Apr 30 #22
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