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61. No. Francis was born Jorge Mario Bergoglio on 17 December 1936 in Flores, a neighbourhood of Buenos Aires, Argentina.

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Thu May 8, 2025, 08:24 PM

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He was the eldest of the five children of Mario José Bergoglio and Regina María Sívori. Mario Bergoglio was an Italian immigrant and an accountant from Piedmont. Regina Sívori was a housewife born in Buenos Aires to a family of northern Italian origin.

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Robert Prevost, now Leo XIV, is not the first "American" pope [View all] onenote May 2025 OP

And Francis was Italian, which is always overlooked. Srkdqltr May 2025 #1

Francis was born in Argentina... k8conant May 2025 #106

Hear, hear! Thank you! ZDU May 2025 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author MLAA May 2025 #3

ok Torchlight May 2025 #4

You do know that American edhopper May 2025 #5

No he is not the first American pope malaise May 2025 #6

The locals in Britain, France, Germany, Morocco, and Ireland all referred to me as an American. TomSlick May 2025 #10

I'm an American NewLarry May 2025 #27

Many of us are USERs TexLaProgressive May 2025 #62

Show me where people from other countries edhopper May 2025 #22

Here's where: specifically, Spain, where I used to live DFW May 2025 #63

And people who speak English? edhopper May 2025 #75

Europeans don't change their terminology when speaking a foreign language (such as English). DFW May 2025 #76

Okay edhopper May 2025 #79

Do you speak German, French, Swedish, Italian, Greek, Dutch and Norwegian? DFW May 2025 #113

I lived in Latin America for 5 years, they call people from the US "Americanos", not "Norte Americanos" EX500rider May 2025 #103

I can't dispute that except for Ecuador DFW May 2025 #111

So people from Mexico are just called Americans? Self Esteem May 2025 #33

He is American malaise May 2025 #38

So, he's the first American pope. Self Esteem May 2025 #39

He was born in Italy mcar May 2025 #59

The new pope has Peruvian citizenship malaise May 2025 #66

"Pssst - the new pope has dual citizenship - corrected" UTUSN May 2025 #105

Incorrect. Of course the US allows dual (or more) citizenship, look at me (I hold US, UK, and Swedish citizenships). Celerity May 2025 #109

Pope Francis was born in Argentina IronLionZion May 2025 #72

As I said, I take your point mcar May 2025 #64

People from outside the USA including from the Americas JI7 May 2025 #94

People from outside the USA including from the Americas JI7 May 2025 #95

People from outside the USA including from the Americas JI7 May 2025 #96

Not at my first daily newspaper job...my knuckles got rapped royally for referring to an allegorical oracle May 2025 #97

I never like it when people say "American" and actually mean United States citizen. sdfernando May 2025 #7

What should we be called then? edhopper May 2025 #23

Damn yankee. Or yanqui. erronis May 2025 #46

There are a whole bunch of folks edhopper May 2025 #47

"From the United States" has worked fine for me nilram May 2025 #52

Here comes the edhopper May 2025 #54

Here comes the first Pope from the United States. nilram May 2025 #86

The Allies in WWII edhopper May 2025 #88

Just heard it on the news, "the first pope from the US." nilram May 2025 #99

Nothing wrong with that edhopper May 2025 #100

And nothing awkward, either. nilram May 2025 #114

What do you call someone from the US? Self Esteem May 2025 #34

Based on the fact that Trump is President Bluestocking May 2025 #45

Just edhopper May 2025 #49

70 percent did not vote for Harris. Bluestocking May 2025 #56

To repeat: Damn yankee. Or yanqui. erronis May 2025 #48

You call yourself an American because you're from the US. Self Esteem May 2025 #73

A gringo? fierywoman May 2025 #78

In Spain and Germany, actually, yes. DFW May 2025 #112

In Europe, the Americas are considered a single continent. flor-de-jasmim May 2025 #8

But I have never seen a European refer to anyone other than a US citizen as American prodigitalson May 2025 #12

Yes, I live in Europe (Sweden), have been to almost every European nation state, and have never heard anyone other than Celerity May 2025 #42

Imagine how cool your passport would look if you prodigitalson May 2025 #115

I used to travel almost exclusively on my British passport, but now, post-Brexit, I use my Swedish one. The only Celerity May 2025 #118

Yeah, "Unitedstatesian" is a bit cumbersome... Wounded Bear May 2025 #25

Yanqui. erronis May 2025 #50

Many in the Southern U.S. would object to that term n/t markpkessinger May 2025 #87

In the spirit of the times, Let's rename ourselves delisen May 2025 #70

What do they call someone from the US - or Brazil for that matter? Self Esteem May 2025 #35

Bollocks. The continents are "North America" and "South America". muriel_volestrangler May 2025 #83

Indeed. He's the second. ancianita May 2025 #9

Exactly right and well put. Let the naysayers die on this hill. Silly stuff. FadedMullet May 2025 #14

What do you call someone from the US? Self Esteem May 2025 #36

What the world calls them -- an American. ancianita May 2025 #37

So he is the first American pope... Self Esteem May 2025 #40

Yanqui. erronis May 2025 #51

I recall spanish class dwp6577 May 2025 #11

What's the A in USA? IronLionZion May 2025 #13

I usually enjoy a bit of pointless Internet pedantry Sympthsical May 2025 #15

Thank you. Oopsie Daisy May 2025 #18

this thread partially reminds me of some of the threads about the cringe (and Dem vote repellent) that is 'Latinx' Celerity May 2025 #80

We're extremely skilled at Arguments No One Asked For Sympthsical May 2025 #82

No one who agrees with the OP can take any issue with Trump renaming the Gulf Of Mexico to the Gulf of America, using Celerity May 2025 #110

I'm missing something. AverageOldGuy May 2025 #16

What. You can't Google him? ancianita May 2025 #20

Born and raised in South Chicago, Bishop of Chiclayo Peru, Cardinal of Santa Monica Italy. IronLionZion May 2025 #30

There is a video of his brother speaking of him on the DU video links. nt ShazamIam May 2025 #60

From what I have looked at so far Meowmee May 2025 #77

LOL Oopsie Daisy May 2025 #17

The world understands the difference between "the first American Pope" and "the first Pope..... FadedMullet May 2025 #19

And we did say first Pope from the Americas when Pope Francis was elected. IronLionZion May 2025 #31

First Pope from an English-speaking country since Adrian IV (England) died in 1159 (who was the only one until now). Celerity May 2025 #21

Technically, did 12th Century people from England really speak "english?" Wounded Bear May 2025 #28

I almost asked that malaise May 2025 #41

early Middle English Celerity May 2025 #44

The Dan Jones Plantagenet docu-series is great Sympthsical May 2025 #68

Thank you! Eleanor was awesome! biophile May 2025 #69

Right? Sympthsical May 2025 #81

Yes love that book. Lots of historical perspectives on life in the Middle Ages. I didn't know that there were more biophile May 2025 #91

I will put it on my list! Sympthsical May 2025 #92

I just looked it up... Pope Leo was on Sept 14, 1955 in Cha May 2025 #24

So the first Illinoisian Pope? erronis May 2025 #53

Thank you for important clarification! bluboid May 2025 #26

On brand Prairie Gates May 2025 #29

Brilliant move by the Catholic Church. roamer65 May 2025 #32

We could call him the first Yankee Pope Hassler May 2025 #43

The first Yank pope... California Kid May 2025 #55

Francis was born in Italy mcar May 2025 #57

No. Francis was born Jorge Mario Bergoglio on 17 December 1936 in Flores, a neighbourhood of Buenos Aires, Argentina. Celerity May 2025 #61

Technically, maybe. But the whole world calls folks born in U. S. A. Americans. Joinfortmill May 2025 #58

Right DavidDvorkin May 2025 #67

Oy JoseBalow May 2025 #65

He's the First born in the United States of America JustAnotherGen May 2025 #71

Hope you feel better Renew Deal May 2025 #74

When I was visiting Europe, and I had people ask me where I was from, I would respond "The U.S." Aristus May 2025 #84

This is kinbda dumb. Happy Hoosier May 2025 #85

... W_HAMILTON May 2025 #89

I got sharply rebuked... róisín_dubh May 2025 #90

Mexicos full name is United Mexican States Kaleva May 2025 #116

Yes I'm aware. róisín_dubh May 2025 #117

Yeah, he is. BlueTsunami2018 May 2025 #93

Only people in some countries, like Argentina, care about this subject Wanderlust988 May 2025 #98

I'm sure if you asked anyone born and living in any country south of ours "Are you an American?" Wonder Why May 2025 #101

There is such a thing as common usage senseandsensibility May 2025 #102

Rec'd Kaleva May 2025 #104

Jesus. nt LexVegas May 2025 #107

America is in our name Raine May 2025 #108