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paleotn

(21,823 posts)
35. Sigh is right.
Thu May 8, 2025, 09:12 PM
May 2025

You do realize the majority of scholars think that passage in Antiquities was forged centuries later by overzealous monks. That's been the majority opinion for decades, yet that tired old dog eared "card" keeps being played. After all, what do experts know.

Tacitus thought Christianity was a pernicious superstition. I agree, but that's hardly a ringing endorsement of one of various Jewish sects and hundreds of cults circulating in the Roman Empire in the 1st and 2nd centuries. That in no way shape or form proves anything about an historical Jesus.

The lack of evidence would lead a rational person to conclude he's a 1st century version of Paul Bunion. After all, it was "common knowledge" that Davy Crockett could ride a lightening bolt .... during his lifetime no less! I kind of doubt it. Like walking on water perhaps? Hell, Crockett could leap the Mississippi! Of course, Crockett existed. We have evidence of that. Paul Bunion and Jesus? Not so much. My point being, the supposed exploits of even real people can get out of hand sometimes. So perhaps Brian was the real Jesus, but a very naughty boy nonetheless.

You do realize the Trojan War was a fiction made up by Homer. Historical Troy, or what some archaeologists think may have been A Troy, was sacked several times, but Homer's story was historical fiction at best as there's zero archeological evidence of anything happening there on the scale Homer wrote about. We do have lots of confirming evidence that Homer existed, but the Iliad and Odyssey are a mix of myth and legend, no different than Sisyphus and his boulder or Prometheus being chained to a rock and eagles eating his liver every day for eternity. Kind of like the son of god. One of many son's of god if you're keeping track of them as they go by.

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I THOUGHT THE SAME THING! Trump is SUCH a big threat to the world! WVGIRL May 2025 #1
Hopefully that includes the US Catholic clergy. paleotn May 2025 #2
It is not clear to me that the Church ever learned anything from all these cases of predatory priests Bluetus May 2025 #4
The thing I learned in seminary was that one reason it's so hard to change the Catholic church intheflow May 2025 #6
And thus. condemned to the lowest common denominator Bluetus May 2025 #14
American society isn't the world. The American Catholic Church is not the Catholic Church. ancianita May 2025 #9
It seems more to me that "man" built this heirarchy, not Christ. erronis May 2025 #13
I hear you. I have to say, tho', that if you take Jesus at his word, you would know that a Church on six continents ancianita May 2025 #23
Or, you could listen to Jesus say that he was a man, not God. intheflow May 2025 #40
If you care to you could skim words (e.g., of Luke & John) & see Jesus call the Jewish God "Father" 165 times in the NT ancianita May 2025 #46
LOL FrankBooth May 2025 #42
Yep. Succinct, and so obvious to those who don't believe in magic NoRethugFriends May 2025 #54
This all happened CENTURIES after Jesus lived. Bluetus May 2025 #16
It's not likely that Jesus was illiterate. Mosby May 2025 #18
Perhaps not, but doesn't it seem just a little bit strange Bluetus May 2025 #31
No. Historical Judaism looked nothing like Rabbinical DenaliDemocrat May 2025 #39
Not so. I'm as well read and educated as anyone, and I'll tell you this: you have to reread history, but ancianita May 2025 #24
I am sorry. I couldn't understand a single thing you wrote. Bluetus May 2025 #28
Okay, cool. ancianita May 2025 #30
Thanks for the clarification. Bluetus May 2025 #34
There's really scant evidence that some guy named Jesus encompassed all that's been written about him... paleotn May 2025 #29
sigh... ancianita May 2025 #32
Sigh is right. paleotn May 2025 #35
Source your claims of "lots of evidence" for Homer, or anything else, or you're not credible. ancianita May 2025 #41
...... paleotn May 2025 #48
Again. ancianita May 2025 #50
Credible. In this context. paleotn May 2025 #52
So all the New Testament writers never met him & are lying. ancianita May 2025 #33
Is this some kind crusade? paleotn May 2025 #36
Sounds like a projection posing as a question. ancianita May 2025 #43
No, it's a question. paleotn May 2025 #49
People in cults generally don't realize they're in cults NoRethugFriends May 2025 #55
Jesus was likely NOT illiterate DenaliDemocrat May 2025 #38
He knew way more than the Pharisees, Sadducees, even, because many called him Rabbi when they questioned him ancianita May 2025 #44
I don't know.... reACTIONary May 2025 #47
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I think he speaks 5 languages. Mosby May 2025 #21
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Your message to God's ears! ZDU May 2025 #20
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