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paleotn

(22,151 posts)
12. American hegemony is over.
Sun May 11, 2025, 02:15 PM
May 2025

Honestly, that might not be a bad thing. Certainly for Ukraine right now. And if we ever get out of this mess, it's better to have equal partners who are actually equal, and not be the sole colossus with a unilateral bent. That's gotten us into nothing but trouble from Vietnam to Iraq. Mainly because no one else on our team was strong enough to say no and have that mean anything. Can't find consensus? That's fine. Maybe the best answer sometimes is to do nothing instead of rushing in, foolishly confident in our own, unvetted view.

They've got some catching up to do militarily, but are certainly wealthy enough and technological advanced enough to equal and surpass the US. Truth is, we and the former Soviet Union are the reason they need to catch up. Through most of the Cold War, certainly the decades right after WW2, it wasn't in our collective interests as the 2 sole super powers to allow a rearmed Europe. The German Bundeswehr wasn't established until 1955. A full 10 years after WW2 ended. France tired of us and went their own way. Can't blame them.

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Real julmur May 2025 #1
These are leaders not convicted felons. republianmushroom May 2025 #2
Meanwhile, Trump and all HIS friends... (comment from BlueSky) erronis May 2025 #3
A shitty throne for a shitty and sad clown. Dave Bowman May 2025 #29
What it should be... haryn May 2025 #4
I thought it unfortunate that the "current leaders of Europe" didn't show any women erronis May 2025 #5
Absolutely haryn May 2025 #14
Macron looks wonderful, doesn't he? The French know how they look. They just do. CTyankee May 2025 #6
Yeah, BUT HE WORE A BLUE SUIT to the Pope's funeral!!! AZ8theist May 2025 #39
Perfect! Buddyzbuddy May 2025 #7
It's nice to see the unity and the smiles on all their faces... keep_left May 2025 #8
Probably smells better, too. nt eppur_se_muova May 2025 #32
Like it! calimary May 2025 #9
Leaders of Free World peggysue2 May 2025 #10
Yep. The actual free world. paleotn May 2025 #13
The donald would just try to monopolize it. calimary May 2025 #30
You've just described his obsequious cabinet meetings. . Marcuse May 2025 #31
Aloha, PeggySue.. It a Great photo.. I recognize Cha May 2025 #18
Hi Cha! The tall fellow is Merz of Germany, but I'm uncertain who the guy on the right is... liberalla May 2025 #19
Mahalo! Yeah, I was really wondering Cha May 2025 #21
While ok on some issues he is very conservative. JanMichael May 2025 #27
PS liberalla! Sorry I thought Cha May 2025 #23
Donald Tusk, prime Minister of Poland is the guy on the right IcyPeas May 2025 #22
Oh Thank You, Icy Peas! Cha May 2025 #24
Fox and the RWing DENVERPOPS May 2025 #11
American hegemony is over. paleotn May 2025 #12
Lovely but where are the women? efhmc May 2025 #15
This is truly heart-warming. ShazzieB May 2025 #16
Not really. Trump does not consider them to be "Manly men" like his Jan 6 ICE cops. LiberalArkie May 2025 #17
Don't you know it! ReRe May 2025 #20
SOME heads of state soldierant May 2025 #25
Leaders, different styles. Zelensky. Trump Norrrm May 2025 #26
This looks like a fun bunch of guys Bayard May 2025 #28
One of the best things and a real lasting legacy of President Biden was on his trip to Ukraine and .. Botany May 2025 #37
What the world needs now... moondust May 2025 #33
But no suit! Bumbles May 2025 #34
I'd bet they're sharing a laugh about Trump. nt. druidity33 May 2025 #35
They don't seem to mind Zelensky not wearing a suit. JohnnyRingo May 2025 #36
Holy shit - Friedrick Merz is malaise May 2025 #38
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