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Mon May 12, 2025, 10:32 AM May 2025

tariff math: no, a 30% tariff does not mean end consumer prices go up 30% [View all]

all politics aside, just focusing on the math --

a tariff is placed on the imported raw materials or product, not the end item as it sits on the shelf.

if i'm running a profitable business, i might import a $40 item and sell it for $100. the profit margin isn't nearly as big as it might seem, because i have to pay rent on stores, shipping and trucking and storage costs, labor, taxes, fees, insurance, advertising, etc.

tariffs generally only apply to the raw materials/goods, only. even if my sold goods are 100% imported. the effect is less if some of my raw materials are domestic; there's no tariff on trucking the goods across america to my local stores, e.g.

so let's say there's a 30% tariff on the $40 imported product; that's "only" $12. if i pass on 100% of this cost, that "only" increases the cost of the end good from $100 to $112, a 12% increase, not 30%.


as a further subtlety, a few of the "domestic" costs might actually go up with the cost of raw materials, such as insurance and financing costs, but this is a relatively small effect. similarly, some of the extra costs might be absorbed by the importer and/or the foreign seller so that they don't lose as much sales.

so the final result might be a price increase to $110, or a 10% increase.


now, that's still a staggering increase that highly distorts the market, it's highly inflationary and a major headwind on the economy. a recipe for stagflation. what i'm saying isn't meant to mitigate the stupidity and harm of all this.

i just want to get the math right, so people aren't surprised when prices don't actually go up a full 30% and thing anything magical happened, and i certainly don't want republicans taking credit for the price hikes not being the "full" 30%.





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The price of Greek yogurt and Mexican mineral water went up 30% almost immediately in the store Walleye May 2025 #1
there are always multiple factors in any specific market, so it's often a mess to tease out what's going on unblock May 2025 #4
I think your last paragraph describes the situation quite accurately Walleye May 2025 #6
"many industries are quick to increase prices and slow to decrease them" Like when the cost of crude oil goes up mitch96 May 2025 #22
Most Greek yogurt is not from Greece. Ms. Toad May 2025 #12
Maybe price gouging but it doesn't seem too different from normal business practices. Walleye May 2025 #13
Technically correct Aviation Pro May 2025 #2
only some of the costs go up in proportion to the costs of the imported goods. unblock May 2025 #7
I'm thinking 145% plus 30% SheltieLover May 2025 #3
A tariff on everything will have a significant effect on costs for consumers, regardless Ocelot II May 2025 #5
absolutely true. unblock May 2025 #10
Good post Prairie Gates May 2025 #8
Google says: The average gross profit margin for a small retail business typically falls between 30% and 53%, Doodley May 2025 #9
👇 Beachnutt May 2025 #11
Way more than 30%. But yeah, these huge, broad-based tariffs are incredibly destructive to our economy. unblock May 2025 #19
It can also depend on the product and what it is made of. For instance an aluminum bat might have several different Quixote1818 May 2025 #14
Yeah. It quickly gets very complicated. unblock May 2025 #20
Thanks! This is a clear description of the factors involved with any price increases frogstar0 May 2025 #15
Risk Johnny2X2X May 2025 #16
Indeed, there is a cost just from the uncertainty. unblock May 2025 #21
Greed Always Wins Aepps22 May 2025 #17
You still have on COO China JustAnotherGen May 2025 #18
100% correct. WarGamer May 2025 #23
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