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gab13by13

(31,734 posts)
8. There were some unions that went too far,
Tue May 20, 2025, 07:05 AM
May 2025

but a good union was a benefit to the company. I worked in a factory and it competed with other factories in our corporation to stay in business. Our plant manager created a team of both company and union members to meet and brainstorm how our plant could cut costs.
Our local union made the stipulation that one item would not be on the table and that was cutting jobs, that would have to be done only by management.

Companies have rules, have a contract, and unions got the wrong reputation of forcing companies to keep bad workers. Here's how our union worked with the company. The company had rules and steps regarding absenteeism. If an employee missed X amount of work they got a verbal warning, if they missed again in a specified time period, they got a written warning, if they continued to miss work they were suspended pending termination. I was the union person who met with the employee and put his/her grievance in writing. Sometimes the grievant had a situation that our local union could fight for, for example, extenuating circumstances for why they missed work, and then we would schedule a meeting with the company that could even be pushed forward to getting the International Union involved.

However, if the grievant broke all of the rules, violated the contract, we would meet with the company and basically beg for mercy. If the company terminated the employee and our local union believed it was justified, we would not get the International Union involved, we would drop the grievance and advise the grievant that he/she could go the legal route. The thing is, if the grievant went to a lawyer he/she would be up against the company and the union believing that the worker was justifiably terminated.

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Oh you bet, union jobs made the middle class. gab13by13 May 2025 #1
Unions were bad mouthed just like MotownPgh May 2025 #2
People would work to organize a union, gab13by13 May 2025 #3
"Right to work" is one of the biggest lies ever perpetrated on working people. ShazzieB May 2025 #18
Don't know if you saw or recall this but... BaronChocula May 2025 #32
Journalism is entertainment now. MotownPgh May 2025 #33
My old man was an accountant, always convinced owners to pay more than local union JT45242 May 2025 #4
There were some unions that went too far, gab13by13 May 2025 #8
I know PLENTY of democrats in my MotownPgh May 2025 #16
I had a teacher quit the union -- because the union saved his wife's (music teacher's job) JT45242 May 2025 #17
He got the things the union fought MotownPgh May 2025 #21
The Democrats' One and Only Union-Busting Governor (Polis from CO, No Labels Problem Solver when he was in the US House) Celerity May 2025 #5
This one needs to be primaried & beaten to a pulp at fhe poles for anto-union bs SheltieLover May 2025 #13
Yea but Trump Renamed the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America Ray Bruns May 2025 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Ray Bruns May 2025 #7
No unions where I have lived, enigmania May 2025 #9
I know too many who fail to have a minimal quality of life status. Sharma Dreihund May 2025 #10
Forgot who said this but I love it for the truth. chouchou May 2025 #11
Kicked and recommended democrank May 2025 #12
It's the norm, Dunc, for workers at Wal-Hell, Home Depot, etc. to get SNAP benefits due to low pay SheltieLover May 2025 #14
Back in the early 2000's grocery unions ensured higher wages haele May 2025 #19
Yup. My older daughter was a cust serv mgr at a grocery store in Chgo burbs back in early 2000s SheltieLover May 2025 #20
ya know, DENVERPOPS May 2025 #24
I remember the Safeway Strike... haele May 2025 #25
Same thing that happened DENVERPOPS May 2025 #26
When Hoffa went to prison mountain grammy May 2025 #15
Unions are wonderful Jean Genie May 2025 #22
My Dad Was A Union Truck Driver ProfessorGAC May 2025 #23
A big K and R for a big dose of truth Diamond_Dog May 2025 #27
zombie reagan still rules our ekonomikks. no minimum wage hike keeps things down. pansypoo53219 May 2025 #28
Duncanpup..did you ever find out if your referral worked out for him? Deuxcents May 2025 #29
You can actually make... cannabis_flower May 2025 #30
Yeah ( said sadly) Figarosmom May 2025 #31
This JustAnotherGen May 2025 #34
My Dad was a teamster as a local truck driver. He KPN May 2025 #35
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