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In reply to the discussion: Israel is a rogue state [View all]

Bev54

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26. Thoughts about Trump's involvement, he refused to comment on whether he was involved
Fri Jun 13, 2025, 09:37 AM
Jun 2025

So is it, he was involved and Israel was given his full blessing or he asked them to do it and doesn't want to comment

Or did he tell them not to do it and they did it anyway and does not want to comment for fear of looking weak because Israel has gone rogue

Or he has no fucking idea whether he agreed or not because he is out of his mind and/or someone else makes the decisions not him.

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Israel is a rogue state [View all] malaise Jun 2025 OP
It is highly likely they used US intelligence to execute that attack WSHazel Jun 2025 #1
Israeli intelligence Mountainguy Jun 2025 #3
Is this the same Israeli intelligence WSHazel Jun 2025 #19
And the same US intelligence that Mountainguy Jun 2025 #23
Whatabout rebuttal WSHazel Jun 2025 #34
Lol Mountainguy Jun 2025 #36
Heehee. I think he got you with the meth heads on kites rejoinder. brush Jun 2025 #43
You could use Google Maps to execute this attack. It's not exactly difficult to locate Iran's strategic areas. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #5
And another one who has no idea of what they're talking about. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #7
I was just saying it's simple for modern countries, and it's certainly no rocket science. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #8
I didn't mean you, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #9
My bad brother, it's early and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. XD Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #10
No, never even heard of that. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #12
Lol! No worries. I've been a computer junkie since MacOS so unfortunately I was bred on 'em. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #13
Did the Iranian theocracy collapse this morning? WSHazel Jun 2025 #16
LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #20
I can't ForgedCrank Jun 2025 #39
It really is incredible. Israel outplayed Iran here with years of planning Arazi Jun 2025 #46
You are right, ForgedCrank Jun 2025 #51
Yup. Even Jordan is on Team Israel Arazi Jun 2025 #57
If I had ForgedCrank Jun 2025 #62
Agreed. I'm more concerned with the Egyptian "street" erupting Arazi Jun 2025 #63
There's always someone next in line in any hierachy. And Israel is just the US's attack dog in ME,has been for decades. brush Jun 2025 #44
Of course there's always someone next in line, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #48
Time is right. But the idea that a coountry in that region, Israel, Iran, Arabia... brush Jun 2025 #50
It may be far fetched to our western thinking, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #53
Possible, but it's quite possible they're familiar with the concept of mutually assured destruction. brush Jun 2025 #58
Iran's mullahs are fanatics. Like Hamas, they don't care about fallout Arazi Jun 2025 #60
Sure, they want to die too, can't wait. brush Jun 2025 #64
You're looking at this thru western eyes Arazi Jun 2025 #66
Please. Thru human eyes. We all have survival instincts. Your bias towards Muslims is clouding your judgement by.... brush Jun 2025 #70
Sigh. Not bias at all. Iran is led by religious fanatics Arazi Jun 2025 #71
"Their people vehemently do NOT want to die." At least you got that part right. brush Jun 2025 #76
Oh ffs, just stop. Attacking DUers is shitty Arazi Jun 2025 #78
Not attacking DUers. Maybe exposing one to the inconsistencies of their statements. brush Jun 2025 #80
Nothing I said is inconsistent Arazi Jun 2025 #92
Heehee. Those two sentences are a perfect example of inconsistent statements. brush Jun 2025 #93
Bibi was elected, unlike the psychopaths who run Iran. Mosby Jun 2025 #109
Too bad for Israel. It's stuck with the waromgering war criminal who keeps widening the war. brush Jun 2025 #117
The same Western eyes that sit by and watch Israel murder and starve malaise Jun 2025 #105
No one is starving. Mosby Jun 2025 #110
And how were Hamas survival instincts? I believe IDF has offed all the top guys who planned 10/7 now EX500rider Jun 2025 #90
Hamas? The terrorists hiding in caves? Who's talking about them? brush Jun 2025 #91
I sure hope we don't have to ever find out, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #61
Iran won't fire a nuclear ballistic missle into Israel Mosby Jun 2025 #72
I didn't necessarily mean firing a nuke into Israel, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #87
Really? WSHazel Jun 2025 #15
Put simply, overconfidence is killer. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #17
This was a mass assassination attempt, not an attack on nuclear assets WSHazel Jun 2025 #22
Comical Mountainguy Jun 2025 #24
Why are so many people defending Trump? WSHazel Jun 2025 #27
Because Iran is Mountainguy Jun 2025 #29
Should America go to war with every country it doesn't like? WSHazel Jun 2025 #40
Why are you defending nuclear proliferation? Mosby Jun 2025 #111
Wasn't that the same rationale for invading Iraq? WSHazel Jun 2025 #113
Yeah but that was a neocon lie. Mosby Jun 2025 #116
So here's the thing. Killing EVERYONE just creates a power vacuum. It means those next in line ascend. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #25
You think Gaza needs more shock and awe? WSHazel Jun 2025 #33
Who said anything about what I think? Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #38
You did WSHazel Jun 2025 #41
It's called a tactical assessment. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #42
Israel doesn't need US Intelligence assets, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #6
You assume facts not in evidence sarisataka Jun 2025 #31
And yet GaYellowDawg Jun 2025 #2
No thanks, I prefer the rational Western world to Iran's world. Fuck Iran. They deserve everything they're getting. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 2025 #4
Netanyahu is a real monster. milestogo Jun 2025 #11
Iran's mullahs are far FAR worse. They're a death cult Arazi Jun 2025 #54
Iran murders women for not wearing head coverings mcar Jun 2025 #73
I love Western complicity! ❤️ tritsofme Jun 2025 #14
Why ? JI7 Jun 2025 #18
The Islamic Republic of Iran is a rogue state. madaboutharry Jun 2025 #21
They are too, no doubt. nt Gore1FL Jun 2025 #30
Thoughts about Trump's involvement, he refused to comment on whether he was involved Bev54 Jun 2025 #26
Lying liars lie malaise Jun 2025 #32
Depending on the outcome, he'll either take complete credit for it, or totally disavow the operation. sop Jun 2025 #68
When Iran flung hundereds of drones and missiles at Israeli cities sarisataka Jun 2025 #28
*terrorist state nt Rob H. Jun 2025 #35
wow...this is some kind of thread stillcool Jun 2025 #37
And Hamas are freedom fighters. nt LexVegas Jun 2025 #45
Obvious straw man is obvious WSHazel Jun 2025 #49
I believe this is a reference to an argument made by the OP. tritsofme Jun 2025 #55
It is not a strawman if sarisataka Jun 2025 #97
What does that make Iran? onenote Jun 2025 #47
A neutered state? egduj Jun 2025 #52
No problem with that. onenote Jun 2025 #59
I sure hope so. GaYellowDawg Jun 2025 #108
By definition some_of_us_are_sane Jun 2025 #56
It's been rogue for a bit longer. By that definition. AloeVera Jun 2025 #77
How many countries in the Security Council will vote in favor of this aggression? How will Trump;s ambassador vote? Ping Tung Jun 2025 #65
Whatever the resolution will be, China and Russia will vote in Iran's favor. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #83
And, Trumpers will vote for war. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #85
In the UN? Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #94
I doubt that it won't. Ping Tung Jun 2025 #96
Well, that rules out a vote on cookie recipies. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #99
Netanyahu is a war criminal PJMcK Jun 2025 #67
Poor Iran mcar Jun 2025 #74
Israel is ruled by a fascist criminal dictator who has the courts in his pocket, just like the US nazi dictator. nt ImNotGod Jun 2025 #69
Iran murders women for not wearing head coverings mcar Jun 2025 #75
Actually that is not true. AloeVera Jun 2025 #103
Well, aren't they wonderful mcar Jun 2025 #106
Israel enid602 Jun 2025 #79
Yes. The timing is perfect for Netanyahu and the religious lunatics running the genocide. AloeVera Jun 2025 #81
That is as silly of a wag the dog reasoning as I have ever seen. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #84
Well, Mossfern Jun 2025 #88
Israel enid602 Jun 2025 #89
The Middle East... hell, the whole world, is full of states far more rogue than Israel. Beastly Boy Jun 2025 #82
There is no scenario where I take Iran's side. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2025 #86
Oh, but Iran isn't, right? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 2025 #95
Recommended. H2O Man Jun 2025 #98
K&R GoodRaisin Jun 2025 #100
Support Israel ... stop the madness of Iran!!!! nt Raine Jun 2025 #101
Support human beings. H2O Man Jun 2025 #104
By supporting the overthrow of a regime Raine Jun 2025 #107
How did Iran of all places get the benefit of a doubt? RandySF Jun 2025 #102
Because of antisemitism. Mosby Jun 2025 #112
The majority of the world know the differences between anti-Semitism malaise Jun 2025 #114
Anti-Zionism is antisemitism - the ADL. You dont get to redefine bigotry. nt LexVegas Jun 2025 #118
Everything that criticizes actions of Israel is not antisemitism. PufPuf23 Jun 2025 #119
No edhopper Jun 2025 #115
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