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ForgedCrank

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16. There was

Fri Jun 13, 2025, 06:48 PM

Jun 13

most likely already a problem on the runway before the aircraft ever lifted off and the pilots knew it, but if the V1 bug was already met. At that point in the sequence, the aircraft must leave the ground. It cannot be stopped at that point regardless due to weight, speed and runway length factors. Odds of survival are higher if you continue with the takeoff attempt at that point.
So what we are probably seeing is an aircraft that was in trouble already when it was screaming down the runway, and that could explain the non-standard configuration we think are seeing because the normal checklist would have been abandoned already. If hitting the ground is a probability, gear down is the advisable setting for most conditions as it is thought to absorb some of the impact on contact.

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Boeing 787 Dreamliner and its history of failures Explained [View all] justaprogressive Jun 13 OP

The news stated the wing flaps were not deployed for takeoff Submariner Jun 13 #1

Flaps problems justaprogressive Jun 13 #2

There would have been a takeoff warning if that had been the case. Ocelot II Jun 13 #3

Yup. If flaps weren't within the takeoff range it would have been real noisy in the flight deck when they advanced the mn9driver Jun 13 #9

The sole survivor said the "plane split apart" and that's when BoRaGard Jun 13 #5

Not exactly BannonsLiver Jun 13 #7

Media hyperbole. ForgedCrank Jun 13 #4

This message was self-deleted by its author Initech Jun 13 #6

Air India has a troubled history. Of course, these days, so does Boeing ! Doctoris Extincti Jun 13 #8

The 787 has one of the best safety records in the history of aviation. Happy Hoosier Jun 13 #10

It has a history of many minor incidents and malfunctions, though. These can add up. Ocelot II Jun 13 #13

Yes, of course.... Happy Hoosier Jun 13 #15

Think it's co- pilot error Canada Kid Jun 13 #11

See above posts - All aircraft have a takeoff warning that activates Ocelot II Jun 13 #12

Unless he brought the flaps up instead of the landing gear. Angleae Jun 13 #14

There was ForgedCrank Jun 13 #16

Unless you have a dual engine failure, V1 or not, taking to the air is not going to happen for long after that EX500rider Jun 13 #17