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AloeVera

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103. Actually that is not true.

Fri Jun 13, 2025, 07:55 PM

Jun 13

Iran has a law that calls for various penalties, up to a DEATH SENTENCE. Horrible.

Many brave women are openly defying that law. Iran's government has chosen not to enforce the law - because Iran has a number of other problems and decided the last thing it needs is more international condemnation when it is trying to present a more "moderate" face to the world.

So not one woman has been "murdered" by Iran's government for defying the face covering law.

No, I am not a "mullah supporter". I'd like to see a free and democratic Iran. I'd like to see all countries free of the influence of any religion, whether it's Iran or Israel - or the U.S. now. But I am against war. So I dislike the usual talking points that are used to beat the drums of war or excuse an illegal act of war - a war that has nothing to do with defending human rights or women's freedom.

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Israel is a rogue state [View all] malaise Jun 13 OP

It is highly likely they used US intelligence to execute that attack WSHazel Jun 13 #1

Israeli intelligence Mountainguy Jun 13 #3

Is this the same Israeli intelligence WSHazel Jun 13 #19

And the same US intelligence that Mountainguy Jun 13 #23

Whatabout rebuttal WSHazel Jun 13 #34

Lol Mountainguy Jun 13 #36

Heehee. I think he got you with the meth heads on kites rejoinder. brush Jun 13 #43

You could use Google Maps to execute this attack. It's not exactly difficult to locate Iran's strategic areas. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #5

And another one who has no idea of what they're talking about. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #7

I was just saying it's simple for modern countries, and it's certainly no rocket science. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #8

I didn't mean you, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #9

My bad brother, it's early and the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. XD Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #10

No, never even heard of that. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #12

Lol! No worries. I've been a computer junkie since MacOS so unfortunately I was bred on 'em. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #13

Did the Iranian theocracy collapse this morning? WSHazel Jun 13 #16

LOL. MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #20

I can't ForgedCrank Jun 13 #39

It really is incredible. Israel outplayed Iran here with years of planning Arazi Jun 13 #46

You are right, ForgedCrank Jun 13 #51

Yup. Even Jordan is on Team Israel Arazi Jun 13 #57

If I had ForgedCrank Jun 13 #62

Agreed. I'm more concerned with the Egyptian "street" erupting Arazi Jun 13 #63

There's always someone next in line in any hierachy. And Israel is just the US's attack dog in ME,has been for decades. brush Jun 13 #44

Of course there's always someone next in line, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #48

Time is right. But the idea that a coountry in that region, Israel, Iran, Arabia... brush Jun 13 #50

It may be far fetched to our western thinking, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #53

Possible, but it's quite possible they're familiar with the concept of mutually assured destruction. brush Jun 13 #58

Iran's mullahs are fanatics. Like Hamas, they don't care about fallout Arazi Jun 13 #60

Sure, they want to die too, can't wait. brush Jun 13 #64

You're looking at this thru western eyes Arazi Jun 13 #66

Please. Thru human eyes. We all have survival instincts. Your bias towards Muslims is clouding your judgement by.... brush Jun 13 #70

Sigh. Not bias at all. Iran is led by religious fanatics Arazi Jun 13 #71

"Their people vehemently do NOT want to die." At least you got that part right. brush Jun 13 #76

Oh ffs, just stop. Attacking DUers is shitty Arazi Jun 13 #78

Not attacking DUers. Maybe exposing one to the inconsistencies of their statements. brush Jun 13 #80

Nothing I said is inconsistent Arazi Jun 13 #92

Heehee. Those two sentences are a perfect example of inconsistent statements. brush Jun 13 #93

Bibi was elected, unlike the psychopaths who run Iran. Mosby Jun 15 #109

Too bad for Israel. It's stuck with the waromgering war criminal who keeps widening the war. brush Jun 15 #117

The same Western eyes that sit by and watch Israel murder and starve malaise Jun 13 #105

No one is starving. Mosby Jun 15 #110

And how were Hamas survival instincts? I believe IDF has offed all the top guys who planned 10/7 now EX500rider Jun 13 #90

Hamas? The terrorists hiding in caves? Who's talking about them? brush Jun 13 #91

I sure hope we don't have to ever find out, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #61

Iran won't fire a nuclear ballistic missle into Israel Mosby Jun 13 #72

I didn't necessarily mean firing a nuke into Israel, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #87

Really? WSHazel Jun 13 #15

Put simply, overconfidence is killer. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #17

This was a mass assassination attempt, not an attack on nuclear assets WSHazel Jun 13 #22

Comical Mountainguy Jun 13 #24

Why are so many people defending Trump? WSHazel Jun 13 #27

Because Iran is Mountainguy Jun 13 #29

Should America go to war with every country it doesn't like? WSHazel Jun 13 #40

Why are you defending nuclear proliferation? Mosby Jun 15 #111

Wasn't that the same rationale for invading Iraq? WSHazel Jun 15 #113

Yeah but that was a neocon lie. Mosby Jun 15 #116

So here's the thing. Killing EVERYONE just creates a power vacuum. It means those next in line ascend. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #25

You think Gaza needs more shock and awe? WSHazel Jun 13 #33

Who said anything about what I think? Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #38

You did WSHazel Jun 13 #41

It's called a tactical assessment. Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #42

Israel doesn't need US Intelligence assets, MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #6

You assume facts not in evidence sarisataka Jun 13 #31

And yet GaYellowDawg Jun 13 #2

No thanks, I prefer the rational Western world to Iran's world. Fuck Iran. They deserve everything they're getting. n/t Hellbound Hellhound Jun 13 #4

Netanyahu is a real monster. milestogo Jun 13 #11

Iran's mullahs are far FAR worse. They're a death cult Arazi Jun 13 #54

Iran murders women for not wearing head coverings mcar Jun 13 #73

I love Western complicity! ❤️ tritsofme Jun 13 #14

Why ? JI7 Jun 13 #18

The Islamic Republic of Iran is a rogue state. madaboutharry Jun 13 #21

They are too, no doubt. nt Gore1FL Jun 13 #30

Thoughts about Trump's involvement, he refused to comment on whether he was involved Bev54 Jun 13 #26

Lying liars lie malaise Jun 13 #32

Depending on the outcome, he'll either take complete credit for it, or totally disavow the operation. sop Jun 13 #68

When Iran flung hundereds of drones and missiles at Israeli cities sarisataka Jun 13 #28

*terrorist state nt Rob H. Jun 13 #35

wow...this is some kind of thread stillcool Jun 13 #37

And Hamas are freedom fighters. nt LexVegas Jun 13 #45

Obvious straw man is obvious WSHazel Jun 13 #49

I believe this is a reference to an argument made by the OP. tritsofme Jun 13 #55

It is not a strawman if sarisataka Jun 13 #97

What does that make Iran? onenote Jun 13 #47

A neutered state? egduj Jun 13 #52

No problem with that. onenote Jun 13 #59

I sure hope so. GaYellowDawg Jun 14 #108

By definition some_of_us_are_sane Jun 13 #56

It's been rogue for a bit longer. By that definition. AloeVera Jun 13 #77

How many countries in the Security Council will vote in favor of this aggression? How will Trump;s ambassador vote? Ping Tung Jun 13 #65

Whatever the resolution will be, China and Russia will vote in Iran's favor. Beastly Boy Jun 13 #83

And, Trumpers will vote for war. Ping Tung Jun 13 #85

In the UN? Beastly Boy Jun 13 #94

I doubt that it won't. Ping Tung Jun 13 #96

Well, that rules out a vote on cookie recipies. Beastly Boy Jun 13 #99

Netanyahu is a war criminal PJMcK Jun 13 #67

Poor Iran mcar Jun 13 #74

Israel is ruled by a fascist criminal dictator who has the courts in his pocket, just like the US nazi dictator. nt ImNotGod Jun 13 #69

Iran murders women for not wearing head coverings mcar Jun 13 #75

Actually that is not true. AloeVera Jun 13 #103

Well, aren't they wonderful mcar Jun 13 #106

Israel enid602 Jun 13 #79

Yes. The timing is perfect for Netanyahu and the religious lunatics running the genocide. AloeVera Jun 13 #81

That is as silly of a wag the dog reasoning as I have ever seen. Beastly Boy Jun 13 #84

Well, Mossfern Jun 13 #88

Israel enid602 Jun 13 #89

The Middle East... hell, the whole world, is full of states far more rogue than Israel. Beastly Boy Jun 13 #82

There is no scenario where I take Iran's side. BlueTsunami2018 Jun 13 #86

Oh, but Iran isn't, right? MarineCombatEngineer Jun 13 #95

Recommended. H2O Man Jun 13 #98

K&R GoodRaisin Jun 13 #100

Support Israel ... stop the madness of Iran!!!! nt Raine Jun 13 #101

Support human beings. H2O Man Jun 13 #104

By supporting the overthrow of a regime Raine Jun 14 #107

How did Iran of all places get the benefit of a doubt? RandySF Jun 13 #102

Because of antisemitism. Mosby Jun 15 #112

The majority of the world know the differences between anti-Semitism malaise Jun 15 #114

Anti-Zionism is antisemitism - the ADL. You dont get to redefine bigotry. nt LexVegas Jun 15 #118

Everything that criticizes actions of Israel is not antisemitism. PufPuf23 Jun 15 #119

No edhopper Jun 15 #115