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EdmondDantes_

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5. Weird that the author doesn't even attempt to explain why they disregard unpopular candidates
Thu Jun 26, 2025, 12:47 PM
Jun 2025

Merely saying unpopular candidates don't account for the increase in undervotes doesn't actually prove the contention. For example what was percentage of people who disliked both Obama and McCain or Obama and Romney compared to Trump and Clinton? Because Clinton's final unfavorable rating was 52% and Trump's was 61%. Those were the two highest unfavorable ratings for candidates in history. It's far more reasonable to assume that would in fact have an impact on voting for that office. Romney's unfavorable rating in 2012 was 43%, Obama 37%. In 2008, both Obama and McCain had unfavorable ratings of 35%. These aren't numbers that should just be glossed over because you don't like them.

Also there's nothing to suggest that 70% of the undervotes would have gone to the Clinton or Harris other than the author says so.

This is still turtles all the way down that doesn't start from a firm foundation but builds theories based on ephemeral suppositions that don't hold up to scrutiny.

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k and r BoRaGard Jun 2025 #1
Bookmarking questionseverything Jun 2025 #2
Read all 4 parts Botany Jun 2025 #3
Please put all 4 parts links in one op questionseverything Jun 2025 #22
And You All Thought Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #4
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We Are Seeing The Creation Mr.Bee Jun 2025 #9
Weird that the author doesn't even attempt to explain why they disregard unpopular candidates EdmondDantes_ Jun 2025 #5
Your theory is based on the supposition that all voting machines are accurate all the time questionseverything Jun 2025 #23
Another Substacker hoping to make a living off unfounded conspiracy theories. Silent Type Jun 2025 #6
If the numbers are accurate, these are jarring statistical anomalies. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2025 #11
It's like the BS few weeks ago about Harris getting no votes in NY precinct. True, but Biden didn't either in 2020. Silent Type Jun 2025 #12
No idea where you got that idea. phylny Jun 2025 #13
I'm assuming you know what a precinct is? Here's a link to one of the conspiracy theory posts about that precinct. Silent Type Jun 2025 #15
You assume correctly!! phylny Jun 2025 #21
The numbers in the article are not true Sympthsical Jun 2025 #18
That's precisely the context that I would need. Pacifist Patriot Jun 2025 #19
Have to say, Botany . . . peggysue2 Jun 2025 #8
I've been convinced for awhile now, especially the the 2024 election. He couldn't have won without cheating. Joinfortmill Jun 2025 #10
the g.o.p. felon has cheated at everything his whole life BoRaGard Jun 2025 #14
We understand statistical anomalies, but zorbasd Jun 2025 #16
This is so embarrassing Sympthsical Jun 2025 #17
"Keep your eyes on the prize." H2O Man Jun 2025 #20
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