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maxrandb

(17,245 posts)
Wed Jul 2, 2025, 03:02 PM Jul 2025

The "press" is complicit, and so is our party's language [View all]

The Returdlicans are absolutely great at "branding".

Take the "Alligator Alcatraz" bullshit. They repeat that moniker over, and over, and over again. Everyone from the Dipshit in the White House, to the Kindergarten Returdlicans repeat it...IN LOCKSTEP.

Pretty soon, EVERY NEWS REPORT about it uses the term "Alligator Alcatraz". What's even worse is, Democratic politicians begin to use that term when discussing the "Auschwitz of Florida".

That's not "fighting for the moment"! That's talking about an unbelievably fascist turn in America on the fascists terms!

Take the "Big Beautiful Bill" for example. The Democratic Party began relabeling it eventually, but by then, the linguistic terms for branding that disastrous piece of legislation had already been set. I actually wretched everytime I heard a Dem use the term "Big Beautiful Bill". Can't blame the media for labeling, if we are doing it ourselves.

If we want to win, I would suggest we STOP LETTING THEM DEFINE THE TERMS OF DEBATE.

Some smart political "strategist" better understand that, in this Tic-Toc. X, Facebook world, if you wait ONE FUCKING SECOND to begin setting your terms, IT'S TOO LATE!

The Retrumplican Party...EVERY LAST ONE OF THEM...won't even acknowledge and use the correct name of the Democrat - IC Party. NOT FUCKING ONE OF THEM.

Are we concerned our "language" will harm "decorum"?

How about this?

Let's worry about decorum after we have stomped this MAGAt Nazi party out of existence.

It is about 60 years too fucking late to start fighting fire with fire.

This shit started when these asspickles assassinated the Kennedys and MLK...and no matter what they may say in public, they privately celebrate those assassinations.

These are the fucking monsters that have seized our country. Can we please STOP using their fucking terms of debate?

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The worst example (or maybe the best) is "Proabortion". Permanut Jul 2025 #1
But we reinforce that Bluetus Jul 2025 #11
Yeah! WTF happened to the "Choice" term! wolfie001 Jul 2025 #14
oh I am definitely pro-abortion tho WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2025 #22
It is counter-productive to frame the argument that way Bluetus Jul 2025 #31
Abortion doesn't happen in a bedroom, so I'm not sure why you call it a bedroom issue. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2025 #32
"Bedroom" is a euphemism for sexual relations Bluetus Jul 2025 #35
Euphemisms have no place in politics. Abortion is not about sexual relations; it's about ending a pregnancy. WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2025 #36
"Euphemisms have no place in politics" Bluetus Jul 2025 #40
We Go High is invalidating language AStern Jul 2025 #2
Sadly, we don't live it that world anymore maxrandb Jul 2025 #5
No, you are 100% correct. "We Go High" only works in a political system/culture where going high is actually valued and Karasu Jul 2025 #24
They have a very well funded psyops team using cachukis Jul 2025 #3
They are from the business world, which uses psyops and other advances in psychological manipulation all the time DSandra Jul 2025 #34
Florida Auschwitz is the correct term and we should use it. wnylib Jul 2025 #4
Don't need a mirror! niyad Jul 2025 #30
You would like George Lakoff's work on framing the debate Qutzupalotl Jul 2025 #6
Framelab is an EXCELLENT resource. Bluetus Jul 2025 #33
I totally agree SusieCreamcheese Jul 2025 #7
Abso-fucking-lutely! erronis Jul 2025 #16
You nailed it malaise Jul 2025 #8
While appreciate singing to choir, we need to convert the 5% or so of voters who swung to trump in Nov and Silent Type Jul 2025 #9
Branding by the Bully SusieCreamcheese Jul 2025 #10
It might also help if Democrats would PatSeg Jul 2025 #12
It's official: Alligator Alcatraz is not a nickname. It's Florida's name for detention site. Amaryllis Jul 2025 #13
Amen..."permanent tax cuts" is another....sunsetting these abortions rasing taxes?!?!? (n/t) Moostache Jul 2025 #15
That would be ungenteel. Kid Berwyn Jul 2025 #17
BIG BEAUTIFUL BETRAYAL bill and ALLIGATOR AUSCHWITZ or GATOR GULAG flamingdem Jul 2025 #18
Every trumplican needs to be labeled a RINO idahoblue Jul 2025 #19
KICK orangecrush Jul 2025 #20
TELL IT! GiqueCee Jul 2025 #21
I've used the term Anti-Abortion for decades JoetheShow Jul 2025 #23
One example. BidenRocks Jul 2025 #25
Pro Life is the worst one JI7 Jul 2025 #26
Actually, they are anti-women's healthcare. mdbl Jul 2025 #28
K&R mdbl Jul 2025 #27
They're also great at manufacturing a faux scandal, and keeping it in the headlines. Something WE have to learn to do. TrollBuster9090 Jul 2025 #29
I agree wholeheartedly. 🩵💙🩵 live love laugh Jul 2025 #37
The newz is also calling it a budget bill. live love laugh Jul 2025 #38
I agree. The Dems calling the Bucks for Billionaires Hassler Jul 2025 #39
Trump should always be referred to as "convicted felon Donald Trump" Orrex Jul 2025 #41
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