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bronxiteforever

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Sun Jul 6, 2025, 10:38 AM Jul 2025

It's too late': David Suzuki says the fight against climate change is lost. [View all]

David Suzuki, noted environmentalist and longtime host of ‘The Nature of Things’ on CBC. At 89-years-old, Suzuki remains a fierce advocate for global climate action, but he spoke about recently coming to the conclusion that humanity has lost the fight against climate change,

“Now, it is too late.
I’ve never said this before to the media, but it’s too late. I say that because I go by science and Johan Rockström, the Swedish scientist who heads the Potsdam Institute, has defined nine planetary boundaries. These are constraints on how we live. As long as humans, like any other animal, live within those nine constraints, we can do it forever, and that includes the amount of carbon in the atmosphere, the pH of the oceans, the amount of available fresh water, the nitrogen cycle, etc.

There are nine planetary boundaries and we’ve only dealt with one of them — the ozone layer — and we think we’ve saved ourselves from that threat. But we passed the seventh boundary this year, and we’re in the extreme danger zone. Rockström says we have five years to get out of the danger zone.
If we pass one boundary, we should be shitting our pants. We’ve passed seven!

For me, what we’ve got to do now is hunker down. The units of survival are going to be local communities, so I’m urging local communities to get together…Governments will not be able to respond on the scale or speed that is needed for these emergencies…Find out who on your block can’t walk because you’re going to have to deal with that. Who has wheelchairs? Who has fire extinguishers? Where is the available water? Do you have batteries or generators? Start assessing the roots of escape. You’re going to have to inventory your community, and that’s really what we have to start doing now.

More here
https://www.ipolitics.ca/2025/07/02/its-too-late-david-suzuki-says-the-fight-against-climate-change-is-lost/
In light of our failure to control climate change, impacts such as the loss of FEMA, and the clear direction the planet is going and the response of Texas to the flooding, this interview published on July 2nd gives us a way to survive. President Biden was right for calling climate change an existential threat. It is here now and we have to think about survival.

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hem AllaN01Bear Jul 2025 #1
We didn't lose the fight. The politicians threw the fight, they were well paid too. Autumn Jul 2025 #2
Agree with all you said. Brenda Jul 2025 #6
I agree with you but... llmart Jul 2025 #26
Younger generations have been stepping up since the 1980's. haele Jul 2025 #58
I don't think that's true for most of them. Brenda Jul 2025 #62
I don't think most of them are well aware of how far the climate has gone south. llmart Jul 2025 #71
While I truly appreciate your perspective Brenda Jul 2025 #75
You are incorrect about college students being mostly from upper middle class families. llmart Jul 2025 #81
NYT article says otherwise. Brenda Jul 2025 #85
"First time in US history college graduates cannot find jobs." OldBaldy1701E Jul 2025 #98
The 80s? The hippies were devoted to a return to the land and a sustainable form of life. But their numbers were too few Martin68 Jul 2025 #83
I grew up during the 60's also, and my dad was a teacher. haele Jul 2025 #87
I believed this when GWB was installed along with Cheney. "Drill baby, drill" was their mantra. SharonAnn Jul 2025 #45
I agree. We're toast. Republicans killed the planet surfered Jul 2025 #3
+1. We definitely lost 4 years because of Trump, and 4 more dalton99a Jul 2025 #8
We lost 8 years because of GWB, 8 years obama had to deal with the financial collapse, 4 years of Trump, a GOP congress SharonAnn Jul 2025 #46
China sealed the deal when its economy exploded Kaleva Jul 2025 #67
Yup gerryatwork Jul 2025 #88
Agree Kaleva Jul 2025 #93
Not the planet - it will eventually recover. Republicans have killed human civilization. ms liberty Jul 2025 #49
Human civilization. Aristus Jul 2025 #65
We will be a short lived species, defacto7 Jul 2025 #92
We're an extinction species misanthrope Jul 2025 #101
Just yesterday I watched a couple of videos featuring George Carlin. RT_Fanatic Jul 2025 #91
Nope..... Lovie777 Jul 2025 #4
Nope, to what exactly? That it's lost? LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #56
not sure, but the "bright side" is Krasnov is killing so many people that we may naturally course correct cadoman Jul 2025 #86
Sounds like a dystopian movie newdeal2 Jul 2025 #5
It'll be isolated communities struggling to survive Kaleva Jul 2025 #39
I'm afraid so. Susan Calvin Jul 2025 #41
You may want to watch "2073" on max. Prairie_Seagull Jul 2025 #125
The one insurmountable for me is the dwindling amount of fresh water DFW Jul 2025 #7
Our area is in a multi year drought. Reservoirs are down to 15% of capacity and were under severe water restrictions. surfered Jul 2025 #9
I know that the Clinton Global Initiative was seeking funding for desalinization plants almost 20 years ago. DFW Jul 2025 #13
And the first thing St. Ronnie Raygun did after he cheated to beat Carter, was remove the solar panels OMGWTF Jul 2025 #43
Besides, which candidate would you rather have a beer with, amirite? hatrack Jul 2025 #102
Yeah, we heard that a lot in 2000 DFW Jul 2025 #110
I understand this water will be used to power solar and AI for their country. What I don't understand is why in2herbs Jul 2025 #22
Oil industry currently has money to bribe him with Jerry2144 Jul 2025 #30
The Oil Industry is market driven thought crime Jul 2025 #44
Our oiligarchs in the oil industry markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #54
It's two mutually reinforcing scams . . . . or a highly profitable suicide pact (YMMV) hatrack Jul 2025 #106
I read something (in regards to microplastics) where someone commented Tadpole Raisin Jul 2025 #29
Water may be a big driver of climate change migration. thought crime Jul 2025 #34
Pennsylvania and upstate New York have very good water in sustainable quantities FakeNoose Jul 2025 #96
Dems need to decenter the "2+2 equals whatever you want" voices gulliver Jul 2025 #10
Frankly it was lost decades ago indusurb Jul 2025 #11
sadly, justsomeguy01 Jul 2025 #23
Some do, dare I say many, but those who crave power, Mtnmama Jul 2025 #57
Welcome to DU, justsomeguy01! calimary Jul 2025 #112
the US isn't even close to the prime driver of CO2 increase... WarGamer Jul 2025 #97
Reagan made greed and ignorance fashionable Skittles Jul 2025 #117
A must read. dalton99a Jul 2025 #12
Find your local Transition Town movement RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #14
Thank you RandomNumbers for posting this information! bronxiteforever Jul 2025 #15
Ironically, approximately 40% of water use in our area is related to the petrochemical industry surfered Jul 2025 #16
And 30% is livestock JanMichael Jul 2025 #20
I've been saying it's too late for years Iamscrewed Jul 2025 #17
It would have taken a world wide effort.... Kaleva Jul 2025 #36
I have too. For nearly 20 years. NH Ethylene Jul 2025 #113
Imagining the climate migration to the Great Lakes region... EarthFirst Jul 2025 #18
Breeding and eating our way to extinction. n/t flvegan Jul 2025 #19
The US is now being ruled by oldigarchs who want to take us back to "a better time." They have no idea what time in2herbs Jul 2025 #21
It's too late for a lot of things. orangecrush Jul 2025 #24
Recommended. H2O Man Jul 2025 #25
Is anyone here surprised? NewHendoLib Jul 2025 #27
Green consumption and recycling were corporate lies bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #28
Unlimited consumption and disposal were the real culprits Envirogal Jul 2025 #47
I've been working on this for the past several years Kaleva Jul 2025 #31
It has probably been too late Glaisne Jul 2025 #32
2020 taught us that much misanthrope Jul 2025 #33
Al Gore was the most environmentally conscious Democratic nominee fpr president, ever. Martin Eden Jul 2025 #35
Wait, didn't I hear "not a dime's worth of difference" between Bush and Gore? RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #74
The difference was in the $trillions Martin Eden Jul 2025 #78
YES. RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #79
Another big reason the 'educated' WORLD hates the felon. Justice matters. Jul 2025 #37
Somebody give me a cheesburger. twodogsbarking Jul 2025 #38
Great line, from the '68 song: "Living In The USA" by Steve Miller Band Dock_Yard Jul 2025 #109
The guitar. So many great songs beyond the ones that were "hits". twodogsbarking Jul 2025 #120
Mo' people, mo' problems. Envirogal Jul 2025 #40
China's economic boom was the clincher Kaleva Jul 2025 #116
The US birthrate IS low. What do you propose to do to the countries where its HIGH? Callie1979 Jul 2025 #121
Known this for years; Americans disproportionately to blame jimmy the one Jul 2025 #42
You had me until nuclear energy Envirogal Jul 2025 #51
The problem with nuclear as a panacea RandomNumbers Jul 2025 #77
Cheers, Envirogal jimmy the one Jul 2025 #129
So, the plan is to put the foot on the gas? SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2025 #48
Democracy and capitalism are human inventions intended to solve the very specific issues... Ol Janx Spirit Jul 2025 #50
Voters aren't willing to make the sacrifices MichMan Jul 2025 #52
They would if they realized the stakes. Too many just don't believe it thanks to GOP psychopaths LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #59
Fareed Zakaria said this 20 years ago in Newsweek. Mosby Jul 2025 #53
it's not so black and white... we can and will do better in the fight against global warming LymphocyteLover Jul 2025 #55
China produces as much greenhouse gases .... Kaleva Jul 2025 #63
duh. we lost 'normal' in the 80's. i noticed the change + data says the same. pansypoo53219 Jul 2025 #60
and activate your community et tu Jul 2025 #61
More than a decade ago markodochartaigh Jul 2025 #64
Honestly, with how quickly the issue completely dropped from certain voters' priorities... W_HAMILTON Jul 2025 #66
I remember reading Gregory Bateson Dave says Jul 2025 #68
Thanks to human greed and stupidity Mysterian Jul 2025 #69
I'm convinced this is why the US far right wants Canada NickB79 Jul 2025 #70
I've been saying it for years... it's time for mitigation. WarGamer Jul 2025 #72
K&R UTUSN Jul 2025 #73
Texas found that out THE HARD WAY. nt ImNotGod Jul 2025 #76
Can we stop saying the falling birth rate is a problem now, please? Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #80
Once it was clear that not a single country was willing to do what it takes, it was clear nothing was going to stop the Martin68 Jul 2025 #82
I fear he is right. We collectively as a species "blew it." We were warned and now we will bear the consequences of Evolve Dammit Jul 2025 #84
Not listening to Mr. Hypocrite. EllieBC Jul 2025 #89
This could be devastating to his credibility defacto7 Jul 2025 #95
It's been talked about for YEARS. EllieBC Jul 2025 #100
He's 89 years old NickB79 Jul 2025 #104
He's been preaching it for decades. EllieBC Jul 2025 #107
So that makes him wrong about planetary boundaries and our species' overshoot? hatrack Jul 2025 #124
It was always too late, even before the election. ananda Jul 2025 #90
No, because Rush Limbaugh told me Climate Change was a scam. (SARCASM) artemisia1 Jul 2025 #94
The climate crisis is the result of under regulated capitalism. mjvpi Jul 2025 #99
It really started with the neolibs in the Reagan administration valleyrogue Jul 2025 #108
Yup, the rich set the agenda for the rest of us. Less than 1% set the agenda for 8-9 billion people. Clouds Passing Jul 2025 #127
I personally think 1950 was too late Polybius Jul 2025 #103
The only chance is for world leaders to urgently develop carbon extraction technology and massive afforestation Doodley Jul 2025 #105
It's not too late Barbegazi Jul 2025 #111
It would take a level of cooperation never before achieved Kaleva Jul 2025 #115
I am more optimistic Barbegazi Jul 2025 #133
+1 Kaleva Jul 2025 #134
I read a few years ago that we have already baked in a 200 ft sea rise. Old Crank Jul 2025 #114
100% correct Botany Jul 2025 #118
If Harris had been rightly elected Javaman Jul 2025 #119
How? Kaleva Jul 2025 #123
I said margin of a chance. Javaman Jul 2025 #130
We'll maintain our modest footprint. Torchlight Jul 2025 #122
No wonder the rich are acting like greedy goons. They believe they are the only ones who will be saved. Clouds Passing Jul 2025 #126
We are just along for the ride now. Snackshack Jul 2025 #128
It's a hoax. BlueWavePsych Jul 2025 #131
It's been too late since the 70s, at least. No one wanted to admit it. mucholderthandirt Jul 2025 #132
I fear that he is quite right, and the MAGATS will boil in their beds Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #135
I think you have listed some good ideas fujiyamasan Jul 2025 #136
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