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rog

(910 posts)
40. Are we having an argument???? Jeez, I didn't know.
Mon Jul 14, 2025, 09:09 PM
Jul 2025

You are asking questions, I am providing documented answers, as accurately as I can, including anecdotal evidence from a close relative who interacts with the Canadian health care system every day. She is being treated successfully for chronic cancer, her husband has had a tricky and successful surgery for a different form of cancer, as well as a knee replacement. They are both in their 70s, and there has never been an issue getting health care for them or their kids. They simply go to the doctor, they are referred to a specialist if necessary, and they get taken care of. There has never been a problem, there has never been a review of their treatment by any government organization. They get the treatment, the government simply makes sure the bills get paid.

EDITED to add, re: "someone or some group of people that are deciding what will or won’t be covered", the provinces have each decided 'what' is medically necessary (it appears to me that there are minor differences -- there are an awful lot of green check marks on that chart), but the doctors decide 'if' a procedure or treatment is medically necessary. There are no government 'death panels'.

I am not clear why these simple facts are viewed as an argument; the facts are what they are.

Is the issue that the chart I provided did not address your question in a helpful way? I don't know ... I thought it was pretty informative. I did not know any of that stuff. I can't see how providing it can be construed as confrontational.

But one thing does seem clear, that this is not a productive conversation at this point. I hope someone else benefits from the info I've provided, or at least opens a pathway for doing further research.

I will never see this level of health care in what is left of my life ... I hope younger folks fare better.

Take care, all the best ...

.rog.

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Who wants Medicare For All? [View all] applegrove Jul 2025 OP
Project 2025 is for pushing people into Advantage scams Skittles Jul 2025 #1
Well, some of us have been pre paying it for 40 years.... MichMan Jul 2025 #2
I started paying Medicare when I was 16. I got benefits at 65 comradebillyboy Jul 2025 #5
Sad thing is, a Pew Poll in 2023 showed 57% of population supports universal coverage, but 53% want private insurance. Silent Type Jul 2025 #3
re: "recent attitudes about the government's involvement in the healthcare system" rog Jul 2025 #20
The government would have no say... SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #22
I don't know - I could ask my sister - but here's what I found just now. rog Jul 2025 #30
You might be interested in this article, re: Canadian healthcare from an American perspective. rog Jul 2025 #31
Here is a less-than-3-minute presentation by a Canadian physician, comparing ... rog Jul 2025 #35
Bolded below is what I'm talking about SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #36
Here is a province-by-province breakdown as to what's covered. rog Jul 2025 #37
Thanks SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2025 #38
Are we having an argument???? Jeez, I didn't know. rog Jul 2025 #40
Explain it to the 53% who still don't get it after decades. If we can't explain it to them, Silent Type Jul 2025 #23
Unfortunately you will get no argument from me about that. rog Jul 2025 #25
I want universal government funded healthcare ibegurpard Jul 2025 #4
Being an old fart I know what Medicare is and what it comradebillyboy Jul 2025 #6
He never mentions Green Mountain Care, when Vermont tried a Medicare for All type plan but couldn't pay for it betsuni Jul 2025 #7
Every other developed country has medical coverage for all... why is it only impossible for the US? bsiebs Jul 2025 #8
Provinces in Canada each have different healthcare for all. applegrove Jul 2025 #9
Democrats have been trying for many decades. Clinton administration "Hillarycare," Obama ACA (zero betsuni Jul 2025 #11
Hard to sell voters on a VAT MichMan Jul 2025 #19
re: Canadian VAT, via the Tax Policy Center rog Jul 2025 #24
"no actual substance" Skittles Jul 2025 #10
Me. H2O Man Jul 2025 #12
Anyone who doesn't want to continue to suffer until they die in a fascist hellhole where health, science, and quality of Karasu Jul 2025 #13
It's not what the people want that matters in the US, it's what the oligarchs want. raccoon Jul 2025 #14
Minimum Public Option uponit7771 Jul 2025 #15
Think that's best we'll ever get. If it's as good as we think/hope, people will quickly convert. Silent Type Jul 2025 #26
A polite reminder to everyone KentuckyWoman Jul 2025 #16
Compaired to what we have, it would be a step in the right direction. Emile Jul 2025 #17
Yes for sure mvd Jul 2025 #18
That would be a nice start Bettie Jul 2025 #21
Some states have experience with public/private carriers for Medicaid bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #27
I would like to see a Medicare system for all along with a Medicaid system that does not force hard working in2herbs Jul 2025 #28
England seems to be doing nicely B.See Jul 2025 #29
20% VAT in the UK MichMan Jul 2025 #32
Yes, but B.See Jul 2025 #33
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Senator Sanders and co-sponsors. Passages Jul 2025 #39
Even Elon Musk's hero Javier Melei... biocube Jul 2025 #41
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