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PCIntern

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Fri Jul 18, 2025, 09:30 AM Jul 2025

As someone who ACTUALLY HAS chronic venous insufficiency, may I say [View all]

That I have something to expound:

I am a dentist who worked standing up my entire career of essentially 50 years including schooling. When I was about 45-50 I began developing thin varicosities near my ankle of my left foot, likely because I utilized my right foot to activate the pedal for the handpieces and thus leaned heavily to the left. Things were stable until I was 63 years of age and I received an insect bite on my left leg halfway down my shin. My leg acutely swelled up such that I took myself to the ER thinking it might well be a blood clot and the physicians felt the same way.

After multiple tests and sonograms they posited that the insect bite caused my lymphatics to open wide and because I had been, for want of a better word, abusing my leg, all the vessels of my limb were now likely permanently somewhat dilated. Sure enough, my left leg is slightly to somewhat swollen at the end of every day and it is nearly totally relieved in the morning when I awaken. I live with this and accept it: better than many of my comrades who suffer horrendous back pain from sitting and twisting/leaning for decades.

Other than my foot and lower aspect of my ankle, I show no signs of this condition. Now here’s the thing: to render this diagnosis definitively I had the following to rule out more serious illness: weekly leg sonograms for four weeks, treadmill stress test, PET scan stress test, sonogram of my heart, and three or four other tests including blood tests every 90 days. They distinctly informed me that since I had no other symptoms and the tests were essentially negative across the board, that this is LIKELY my diagnosis.

I don’t have ecchymosis of my hands, I don’t have swollen legs bilaterally, I do not have pallor, and I don’t exhibit many of the outward signs and symptoms which President Orangina does. But here’s the point: I eat relatively healthily, am active all day in terms of movement, I am not grossly overweight, I do not need for whatever reason to put makeup on my hands, and people tell me I look well for a male of my genetic background who’s over 70. And yet I have a condition which arguably is relatively minor as things go, but a condition of cardiovascular disease nonetheless.

I am of the absolute near-certain opinion that given the outward visualization of this guy, the docs and the handlers sat down and decided that the absolute most benign condition which could be diagnosed from his appearance alone was chronic venous insufficiency. My considered professional diagnosis after viewing over seventy thousand patients in my career is “No Fucking Way”.

As a coda, please allow me to say that if in fact this were true, then it woukd be the first time in which they told the truth about anything. The odds are low on that score in my estimation.

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Great post Prairie Gates Jul 2025 #1
kick Baitball Blogger Jul 2025 #2
A very valuable perspective! benfranklin1776 Jul 2025 #3
I equate it to a person who had been poisoned, beat to death and death certificate stating "Heart Stopped" when LiberalArkie Jul 2025 #22
Apt analogy! 🙌🏼 benfranklin1776 Jul 2025 #42
Or better yet, from an actual Arkansas case of a body found down the road from me LiberalArkie Jul 2025 #51
Seriously? the coroner put that on the death certificate?😲🙄 mwmisses4289 Jul 2025 #60
Yep, during the Clinton administration. We had a lot of shady stuff going on.. LiberalArkie Jul 2025 #63
OMG you have GOT to post that story. Was Trump the coroner? Callie1979 Jul 2025 #77
I believe this was back in 1992. There was a lot going on in Arkansas at that time and sadly very little on internet LiberalArkie Jul 2025 #82
I'm thinking CHF. We shall see. flying_wahini Jul 2025 #4
If you have CHF your body retains fluid. That means the whole body, right? Katinfl Jul 2025 #12
Due to a failing heart, I had fairly severe fluid retention. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2025 #33
I've had CHF for ca 10 yrs now; I'm 10+ yrs older than That Person. No Vested Interest Jul 2025 #81
outstanding! NJCher Jul 2025 #83
His mind IS going 1st. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #103
Me too Deep State Witch Jul 2025 #28
That's my best guess. A lot of those symptoms are plainly visible. Pacifist Patriot Jul 2025 #44
It has never occured to me KentuckyWoman Jul 2025 #5
My mother got varicose veins as a result of all the time she spent on her feet as an RN. Ocelot II Jul 2025 #14
Baghdad Barbie described Trump's chronic venous insufficiency as Ocelot II Jul 2025 #6
Ed Zachary (exactly) PCIntern Jul 2025 #7
Maybe Timewas Jul 2025 #9
I still say he's probably diabetic (the reason for Diet Coke all the time). llmart Jul 2025 #65
Actually Timewas Jul 2025 #73
Because he is at stage 3, at a minimum, more likely stage 4 (of 6) Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #34
Not to mention, if he isn't at least prediabetic TexasBushwhacker Jul 2025 #38
Way too many people have bought into the idea that weight and diabetes are inherently linked. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #47
100% True.... sdfernando Jul 2025 #49
Mattel recently released diabetic Barbie. soldierant Jul 2025 #92
MTM had type 1 diabetes. ShazzieB Jul 2025 #93
Thanks for the info/nt sdfernando Jul 2025 #100
Fair enough n/t TexasBushwhacker Jul 2025 #50
My ex was diabetic. llmart Jul 2025 #66
"Strongly" isn't "always" Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #67
I don't understand ... Mossfern Jul 2025 #69
With an A1C of 6.2, your average blood glucose is around132. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #71
Heart not related Mossfern Jul 2025 #79
Fret away, then. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #87
Thank you, my dear PCIntern! VERY well said. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2025 #8
Soooo... we should expect that his ankles should not be swollen at times - usually in the morning? ihaveaquestion Jul 2025 #10
Not necessarily. Ms. Toad Jul 2025 #35
The odds are very low in deed. flashman13 Jul 2025 #11
A question about your condition. Old Crank Jul 2025 #13
Yes but I have trouble wearing them PCIntern Jul 2025 #18
I get that Old Crank Jul 2025 #21
I switched the compression stockings to normal knee-heighth soccer (football) socks. erronis Jul 2025 #26
😂😂😂😂 PCIntern Jul 2025 #58
I don't feel as 'constricted' and they are cotton which is more comfortable than that spandex/nylon/whatever. erronis Jul 2025 #64
I don't wear mine either. Same reason. yardwork Jul 2025 #55
There is little doubt he has mutliple things going on. His paraphasias, disorientation, wide right leg swing, hlthe2b Jul 2025 #15
Ty for sharing SheltieLover Jul 2025 #31
I can't remember which year it was, but Trump's physicals in his first term were mostly lies. Lonestarblue Jul 2025 #16
6'3" and 224lbs?!? (imagine me snorting in derision) mwmisses4289 Jul 2025 #62
I have cardiovascular disease and have had pulmanary embolisms 3 times in my 82 years appleannie1 Jul 2025 #17
I'm a little younger - but had a PE (from birth control) -- TBF Jul 2025 #70
I believe its symptom of his heart failing nowforever Jul 2025 #19
As an RN with 37 years working in a hospital TNNurse Jul 2025 #20
Will cult members start stuffing the tops of their socks with Kleenex? Grumpy Old Woman Jul 2025 #23
Would not surprise me at all. nt Callie1979 Jul 2025 #99
Yes, whatever they're admitting to the reality is far worse. BannonsLiver Jul 2025 #24
Thanks for that explanation. milestogo Jul 2025 #25
My first thought when I read "chronic venous insufficiency" AllyCat Jul 2025 #27
Right...he has chronic venous insufficiency, but they aren't saying from what. PortTack Jul 2025 #29
Thank you for the info! I agree... FirstLight Jul 2025 #30
;-{) Goonch Jul 2025 #32
Yikes! Any ideas about this poor abused shoe? Bluebelle76 Jul 2025 #74
on another thread NJCher Jul 2025 #84
The odd-looking shoes are on account of his cloven hooves. Ocelot II Jul 2025 #88
And learn how to tie a shoe, FFS. maxsolomon Jul 2025 #104
Thank you! great post! mountain grammy Jul 2025 #36
Of the issues I have with TACOman, this is the least of them. progressoid Jul 2025 #37
it is important NJCher Jul 2025 #86
So the upshot is... swong19104 Jul 2025 #39
If you're asking for advice Warpy Jul 2025 #40
Actually I wasn't but thanks anyway PCIntern Jul 2025 #45
I'm actually a lot more concerned about his mental illness Bluetus Jul 2025 #41
I don't have your level of expertise, but I have just enough medical knowledge to have reached the same Vinca Jul 2025 #43
howdi. AllaN01Bear Jul 2025 #46
Yeah, they totally lied. lark Jul 2025 #48
He deserves to receive evil thoughts and words JustAnotherGen Jul 2025 #53
Heart failure seems likely, but diagnosis would require truth and science... pat_k Jul 2025 #52
I suspected they came up with the "mildest" diagnosis mcar Jul 2025 #54
Nice school there. PCIntern Jul 2025 #56
Some of my husband's former students mcar Jul 2025 #57
Satan clearly isn't ready for him yet Bluestocking Jul 2025 #59
Great post. There's no way the just did all the testing you detailed underpants Jul 2025 #61
Thank God. We finally have some hope Saoirse9 Jul 2025 #68
Sadly for us, even if it is some stage of heart failure... pat_k Jul 2025 #72
Always recall that JD Vance is current VP; I do not want to wish him as Pres. of USA No Vested Interest Jul 2025 #78
Yes, likely Congestive Heart Failure (CHF). BlueWavePsych Jul 2025 #75
I totally agree with this statement: CrispyQ Jul 2025 #76
'Long COVID" can cause Vascular issues. mackdaddy Jul 2025 #80
My sil's grandmother always had swollen ankles, (from the first time we met 20 years ago) and she always cksmithy Jul 2025 #85
Rumor has it the doctors gave him 6 months Sessuch Jul 2025 #89
I'm sure that's 6 months too many for Melania dflprincess Jul 2025 #91
NoShit.,,nt pbmus Jul 2025 #90
The fact that there even was a health report on TSF tells me: Aussie105 Jul 2025 #94
Maybe his bone spurs need be removed jimmy the one Jul 2025 #95
I'm a retired nurse tavernier Jul 2025 #96
Thank you for this post! EuterpeThelo Jul 2025 #97
If it were so benign, stollen Jul 2025 #98
Exactly... PCIntern Jul 2025 #101
So there's more to the story. stollen Jul 2025 #102
K&R spanone Jul 2025 #105
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