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EnergizedLib

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62. Yes

Fri Jul 25, 2025, 09:27 PM

Jul 2025

As much as I want to be wrong. I so, so hope I’m wrong, our side will somehow manage to lose and this won’t help us.

I would love nothing more than to take both chambers back in 2026, especially to deny any more possible SCOTUS appointments.

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I fear a Maxwell pardon will cost us midterms [View all] EnergizedLib Jul 2025 OP

I think the exact opposite. Ocelot II Jul 2025 #1

I also expect that a pardon would hurt the GOP in the mid terms LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #47

Yeah, I don't think there will be a pardon. LudwigPastorius Jul 2025 #68

The pardon will occur after the 2028 election thought crime Jul 2025 #77

so do I/nt Brainstormy Jul 2025 #51

Quite the opposite! Trump Pardoning her- for favorable testimony Ars Longa Jul 2025 #57

A pardon would be political suicide. gab13by13 Jul 2025 #2

Don't give him any ideas. Fuck Sandusky! madinmaryland Jul 2025 #30

State conviction. Not federal PCIntern Jul 2025 #37

It might cost the GOP the midterms. Irish_Dem Jul 2025 #3

Pedo in chief DoBW Jul 2025 #23

He is so guilty if he pardons her! OrlandoDem2 Jul 2025 #4

Not. H2O Man Jul 2025 #5

Agreed Hekate Jul 2025 #19

Really??? D_Master81 Jul 2025 #6

Never underestimate how duped MAGAts can be EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #8

What does that have to do with winning the mid-terms? Phoenix61 Jul 2025 #49

And MAGAts wouldn't be motivated in this hypothetical scenario? EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #52

They are 30% of the electorate at best. That leaves 70% for us. Phoenix61 Jul 2025 #59

Which sounds terrific on paper EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #63

Epstein is the icing on the cake. Everything you mentioned is the cake. Phoenix61 Jul 2025 #64

I hate that I agree with you. Scrivener7 Jul 2025 #82

The Ds should include in their discussions that f45's agreement with Epstein was business and ask in2herbs Jul 2025 #7

His hand-picked cronies run the IRS now Diraven Jul 2025 #38

Can't predict (for now) how it'd all play out, BUT B.See Jul 2025 #9

What kind of weed is that? BootinUp Jul 2025 #10

I would consider a pardon... Mike Nelson Jul 2025 #11

I don't see the anger over a Trump pardon being blamed on the Democrats. Gore1FL Jul 2025 #12

If Maxwell were pardoned EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #14

I share your bad feeling Dave says Jul 2025 #36

Except Diraven Jul 2025 #40

very, VERY unlikely - - the only ones likely to put any creedence stopdiggin Jul 2025 #13

"there is a fairly decent investigative record already compiled on the Epstein/Maxwell crimes" PSPS Jul 2025 #28

'at's the spirit! stopdiggin Jul 2025 #53

I'm betting she names a bunch of dems and no republicans mucifer Jul 2025 #15

I, for one, agree Diraven Jul 2025 #16

If anything a pardon would increase the size of the blue wave. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jul 2025 #17

If something like the Epstein/Maxwell issue has that much effect.... WarGamer Jul 2025 #18

I'm so glad you are calling it now....no need to watch the results Tribetime Jul 2025 #20

You have no idea how much I hope I'm wrong EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #22

Cheer up this can only hurt maga Tribetime Jul 2025 #25

Definitely plausible but I think the rest of Traitor's bullshit will be a huge drag Arazi Jul 2025 #21

If he pardons her, people will see it's all a cover-up Emile Jul 2025 #24

We see through the BS EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #26

If he pardons her, there will be more pressure to release the Epstein files bucolic_frolic Jul 2025 #27

So politics before justice for victims 🙄 Raine Jul 2025 #29

I agree all should be punished EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #31

What if they're "exposed" by a convicted perjurer with the assistance of known liars? 0rganism Jul 2025 #60

No chance of that happening at all. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #32

Do you trust her to tell the truth? I don't. EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #33

Should we give up? Kingofalldems Jul 2025 #34

Of course not EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #35

You apparently didn't read what I wrote. Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #42

What if she truthfully incriminates Dems but lies about trump? EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #43

Doubtful but I guess possible (super highly unlikely though) Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #44

lol, you forget a substantial majority believe Hillary is the ringleadwr Arazi Jul 2025 #50

"a substantial majority .. " of the fruitcake society? stopdiggin Jul 2025 #54

Substantial majority? There was never even a substantial minority who believed in that Wiz Imp Jul 2025 #56

How well did pardoning Nixon work out for Gerald Ford? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jul 2025 #39

American voters had morals, had standards, back in the '70s? EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #41

There is absolutely zero chance pinkstarburst Jul 2025 #45

Why would republicans go through all the coverup if that's the expected outcome? Renew Deal Jul 2025 #46

It's the economy Strelnikov_ Jul 2025 #48

meh. marble falls Jul 2025 #55

Agree! MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #67

Well, that really doesn't make much sense to me. NoRethugFriends Jul 2025 #58

You're calling it now? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #61

Yes EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #62

I don't ForgedCrank Jul 2025 #65

This. Issues matter EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #66

What happened? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 2025 #70

I want to be EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #71

Most people don't even know who Maxwell is, and "most" voters are sick of Trump already. Jack Valentino Jul 2025 #69

Can you point to a historical precedent for this? EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #72

What historical precedent is there for any of this? EnergizedLib Jul 2025 #73

So that's a no then. EdmondDantes_ Jul 2025 #79

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I believe that trump will pardon maxwell LetMyPeopleVote Jul 2025 #75

So much concern, so little time. TBF Jul 2025 #76

Giving her a pardon won't get him out of this if it's the files they want. GoodRaisin Jul 2025 #80

I'm not concerned about his base - TBF Jul 2025 #84

If she gives testimony favorable to Trump now, she'll get a pardon on Trump's way out. thought crime Jul 2025 #78

NOT if we post more items like this everywhere: Lets Go Jul 2025 #81

Trump woke up to horse's head at his feet, and it's dragging him down. Fast and hard Torchlight Jul 2025 #83