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RandomNumbers

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34. Failed to care about a critical demographic; failed to even PRETEND to care.
Sun Aug 10, 2025, 11:02 AM
Aug 2025

Trans issues are a fig leaf, one of several excuses for the real issue, that an expected path to prosperity has disappeared for a certain group. Relative deprivation (note, "relative" is a crucial term here) creates resentment. When the person feeling deprived doesn't know the real reason for their failure to progress as expected, they will look for scapegoats. Scapegoats found: other groups, particularly those groups who the scapegoater can easily "justify" opposing based on their culture's accepted standards - e.g. Christian dogma, which meanwhile some sects have twisted over the years to strengthen the supposed justification for reprisal against these groups, e.g. LGBTQ, independent women, immigrants.

I bet many here will disagree with the below analysis - and that is EXACTLY why we have lost this group - overall as a party, failing to understand and even PRETEND to care about the impact of the below problem on the demographic group that has tended heavily MAGAt.

FACT: Jobs in certain high-skilled specialties have been outsourced to non-Americans (both immigrants and overseas) for around 20 years, give or take. If you think of career progression as a ladder, you can say that many rungs near the bottom have been removed for Americans who might have had the talent and interest for those jobs. Note that this includes Americans in all non-elderly demographics - but for one demographic particularly, this is a primary reason for resentment, as other issues that might be more critical to them - such as police abuse, or reproductive slavery, tend not to apply to them.

I know the above is a FACT because I have lived it.

ALSO FACT: Neither party will really make a dent in this outflow of opportunity. Because it is not in their financial interest to do so. Because POLITICS RUN ON MONEY and company political donations are going to go to what they think helps their bottom line. The outsourcing of these jobs at least overtly (and tbh, probably in reality, just not as starkly) improves the bottom line. Ergo, many large, software-dependent companies will support politicians who will not screw with their cheap labor pipeline.

ALSO FACT: Democrats I have spoken with have almost completely failed to acknowledge this issue, and some have implied that the person raising it is "racist". (OMG, those folks have no idea what real racism is, nor the fact of who is impacted at least as badly as white Americans - that would be black Americans, to whom these jobs that once may have presented opportunity, are now almost completely closed off.)

The MAGA movement has PRETENDED to care about this issue, but mostly have successfully obfuscated it by focusing on the scapegoat issues that they have effectively steered their followers to.

Democrats, in my experience, have not even pretended to care, and have even attacked people who think this is an issue. (e.g., me).

If this were my "Gaza" issue like some extremist "liberals" in the last election, I wouldn't vote Democrat. But I continue to register and vote Democrat because Republicans are SO EVIL on ALMOST EVERYTHING ELSE (and I even struggle to justify "almost" ). I gave up a long time ago on Democratic politicians supporting my position every single issue I care about. This is a huge one, IMO, but it is up to the Democratic voters to wake up and realize that there is real pain behind why white Americans and especially males support Republicans - and act like they, Democrats, give a shit. And help to make their Dem politicians realize it too. Although it may be too late now, because of the effective replacement of the real issue with the scapegoat issues in the MAGAt mind. And no Democrat should cave on LGBTQ or the environment or women's freedom.

If you made it this far, thank you for reading. Just to reiterate one point: the "real pain" I speak of, has NOTHING to do with LGBTQ, or most issues that the wrong-wing uses as excuses. Those "issues" are only scapegoats.



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Faux and AM radio SheltieLover Aug 2025 #1
And weaponized "christianity" Bettie Aug 2025 #3
Yeah, that part is damn Satanic BoRaGard Aug 2025 #5
They sure are! SheltieLover Aug 2025 #27
Republicans have branded themselves as the champions for God and Country Martin Eden Aug 2025 #21
Weaponized xtianity is compliments of AM radio SheltieLover Aug 2025 #26
Every local AM radio market spawned their own moniss Aug 2025 #18
F-ing AM radio is a HUGE problem in general Bettie Aug 2025 #35
DEFINITELY more hate radio vapor2 Aug 2025 #61
Because Dems have been systematically no_hypocrisy Aug 2025 #2
Yes. Newt Gingrich drove that divide home Iris Aug 2025 #14
Because it's not a political fight; it's a cultural one, and has been since the Civil War. WhiskeyGrinder Aug 2025 #4
Yep. I've seen posts where people hate what trump is doing but refuse to support Dems because of "DEI" tulipsandroses Aug 2025 #28
In one word: Propaganda. Nt Trueblue Texan Aug 2025 #6
Inherent Evil + Low Intelligence + Entitled JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #7
Envy NewHendoLib Aug 2025 #8
$0 -50 years of Murdock, Limbaugh Conjuay Aug 2025 #9
Long running conditioning. paleotn Aug 2025 #10
Amen oswaldactedalone Aug 2025 #11
"If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness." CrispyQ Aug 2025 #16
Seems like he, she, it went on vacation and missed the first half of the 1940's. paleotn Aug 2025 #30
Maybe the Democratic Party spends so much time comradebillyboy Aug 2025 #12
That's a right wing talking point, that the dems focused on the extremes. CrispyQ Aug 2025 #17
The result was Trump being reelected and the comradebillyboy Aug 2025 #20
Bye-bye. Paladin Aug 2025 #40
What are those extremes Keepthesoulalive Aug 2025 #43
so, what do you think is "extreme" Skittles Aug 2025 #63
What extremes? BlueTsunami2018 Aug 2025 #67
Everybody keep asking the same question every day because we don't want to acknowledge what happened. Solomon Aug 2025 #13
Yep. But I'm sure tons of people... appmanga Aug 2025 #36
Donald Trump nt. OLDMDDEM Aug 2025 #15
Some is plain old bigotry EdmondDantes_ Aug 2025 #19
People hate us because we have been the targets of rightwing propaganda for decades and leftwing propaganda since 2016. W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #22
Their platform is white supremacy & white superiority. They hate folks not cool with that. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Aug 2025 #23
Reagan turned "liberal" into a 4-letter word mcar Aug 2025 #24
Rush Limbaugh kick-started the unrelenting, non-stop demonizing of Democrats, liberals, and feminists. chia Aug 2025 #25
It's their religious beliefs - Nigrum Cattus Aug 2025 #29
"What did we do that was so wrong, so terrible?" J_William_Ryan Aug 2025 #31
They don't care Keepthesoulalive Aug 2025 #32
Dumbass conservatives will obligingly hate anyone Warpy Aug 2025 #33
Failed to care about a critical demographic; failed to even PRETEND to care. RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Aug 2025 #37
The problem isn't us! It's hateful fucksticks, absorbed with hatred! maxrandb Aug 2025 #38
You get no argument from me EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #50
The Romans used to fill the Colosseum maxrandb Aug 2025 #60
Neoliberalism is one huge reason LearnedHand Aug 2025 #39
Another reason people believe "not a dime's worth of difference" RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #47
First of all, we are not universally hated DFW Aug 2025 #41
It's the racism, stupid. 2MuchNoise Aug 2025 #42
Pretty hard to have that discussion when people have to watch what they say or be banished and silenced Smokster Aug 2025 #44
If you speak your truth with respect RandomNumbers Aug 2025 #48
Because except for a handful we look like wimps. Phoenix61 Aug 2025 #45
Not focusing on the central issues. Not stifling the Queen of Hearts gulliver Aug 2025 #46
I would hope 2024 was a big enough wake up call that the party won't once again fall for the "Everything's Fine" spin Midwestern Democrat Aug 2025 #57
I had an ex brother in law in the early 90's that used to refer to my husband and I as the looney liberals kimbutgar Aug 2025 #49
You start with the party customerserviceguy Aug 2025 #51
Why the party is so hated EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #52
I would say customerserviceguy Aug 2025 #54
I could tell you, but that kind of talk is shut down here. sorry they will just remove the post, so u will never know Nimble_Idea Aug 2025 #53
I think much of that hate is from Democrats that are sick of a bunch doc03 Aug 2025 #55
Because a culture of hate and regressiveness needs an enemy. Metaphorical Aug 2025 #56
Not playing this game. Iggo Aug 2025 #58
I'm not asking why we suck EnergizedLib Aug 2025 #59
they think of themselves as superior Skittles Aug 2025 #62
Happy butt-kicking anniversary, Skittles! True Dough Aug 2025 #66
Our brand is Empathy RANDYWILDMAN Aug 2025 #64
Because we have empathy and compassion liberalmediaaddict Aug 2025 #65
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