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Tue Aug 12, 2025, 08:26 PM

Aug 2025

I just went to abc.com and I don’t see the story.

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Texas Dems throw in the towel and grant Repubs redistricting victory by returning home [View all] LonePirate Aug 2025 OP

I can't even post what I'm thinking right now RoseTrellis Aug 2025 #1

California, New York and all blue states will redistict and blue states can bring on 50 new dems !! Trueblue1968 Aug 2025 #50

this was the right strategy all along cadoman Aug 2025 #86

We should make a special effort to DEFEAT the GOP in the "new 5 seats" districts! Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #124

I'm not so sure I feel the same as your post. These Texas Dems have sacrificed their day jobs Deuxcents Aug 2025 #2

TY.. I agree... I applaud the Texas Dems. Cha Aug 2025 #3

+1. this negative s___ isn't helping at all. stopdiggin Aug 2025 #11

Oh Tell me About! It's self Defeating... Our Cha Aug 2025 #15

Every. Single. Day. MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #18

Unfortunately, markodochartaigh Aug 2025 #28

They can take solace in the fact that they have plenty of company in history. LonePirate Aug 2025 #6

That is a horrible thing to say MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #21

What I said was truthful. You may think it's horrible but the truth is often discomforting to people. LonePirate Aug 2025 #26

What can they do? TnDem Aug 2025 #45

The session ended August 17th. They only needed 5 more days Arazi Aug 2025 #73

Abbott would have called another session... TnDem Aug 2025 #74

They caved. Pure and simple. We need fighters, not this Arazi Aug 2025 #76

How could they win? TnDem Aug 2025 #79

apparently for some folks, stamping ones feet and throwing a fit is some form of victory cadoman Aug 2025 #89

Probably a wash with CA and TX TnDem Aug 2025 #92

Right. And that would make the Republicans share some of the pain. Bluetus Aug 2025 #91

What pain for the Republicans? TnDem Aug 2025 #95

As long as the story remained in te news, we were winning. Bluetus Aug 2025 #108

I agree, but TnDem Aug 2025 #111

There are several possible outcomes. All are better than early capitulation. Bluetus Aug 2025 #122

I think I misunderstand your point. TomSlick Aug 2025 #102

No it wasn't. It's unrealistic fantasy. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #59

With few exceptions,white people, including Dems, are groomed to be "nice," ananda Aug 2025 #114

white people are goormed to be nice? Huh? Skittles Aug 2025 #128

Yes, Republicans play dirty, corrupt and mean. ananda Aug 2025 #140

What I learned yesterday.. homegirl Aug 2025 #101

And what have you done to stop the advance of conquering tyrants? What sacrifices have you made? onenote Aug 2025 #63

They are HEROS in my book! Ars Longa Aug 2025 #32

They also made sure this travesty was fully publicized, NH Ethylene Aug 2025 #70

This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Aug 2025 #168

I'm not sure I fault them much either fujiyamasan Aug 2025 #103

More than that, they have called attention to the situation, and have motivated other BLUE states to do their lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #150

Aw fuck. calimary Aug 2025 #4

I mean ITAL Aug 2025 #9

Yes PhilosopherKing Aug 2025 #34

I mean that's easy for us to say ITAL Aug 2025 #40

A TX representative said they get $7500 a year to serve. Nearly spooky3 Aug 2025 #82

Exactly ITAL Aug 2025 #109

Fine! Chasstev365 Aug 2025 #5

Shit. DavidDvorkin Aug 2025 #7

you thought they were going to WIN this tussle .. ? stopdiggin Aug 2025 #8

Remember the Alamo... lame54 Aug 2025 #14

I'm not sure of your meaning .. ? You wanted bloodshed .. ? -(nt)- stopdiggin Aug 2025 #52

Different headline dweller Aug 2025 #10

As that article says, Abbott will call a new special session to replace the old one. LonePirate Aug 2025 #13

No it's not. The reality is their entire goal was to make the entire nation aware walkingman Aug 2025 #30

Yes, they absolutely could have stopped this. LonePirate Aug 2025 #36

Not saying you are wrong but this is what I have read/heard..... walkingman Aug 2025 #42

At some point in 2026, TX Repubs could no longer extend the filing deadline. How late could they go? October? LonePirate Aug 2025 #44

I guess it is possible and easy to say as a "armchair quarterback" but because walkingman Aug 2025 #51

Wanna bet on that? onenote Aug 2025 #65

I can't speak for who you know; but the Dems I know are tired of performative stunts that produce no results. LonePirate Aug 2025 #84

Abbott said he'd dissolve the session and call a new one, and again and again Prairie Gates Aug 2025 #12

Dems win by staying away until after the filing deadline passes in mid-December. LonePirate Aug 2025 #17

This Texan agrees with you. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #37

Agreed PhilosopherKing Aug 2025 #38

What price have you paid to save the country? What sacrifices have you made? onenote Aug 2025 #66

LOL writerJT Aug 2025 #123

Maybe not the "same" standard, but being an armchair quarterback with no skin in the game doesn't impress me one bit. onenote Aug 2025 #125

That small price to pay amounts to over $60,000 MagickMuffin Aug 2025 #167

I continue to say... appmanga Aug 2025 #115

If this country is lost, they will have to live in exile for years DSandra Aug 2025 #117

They will just leave again as soon as the next session is called MichMan Aug 2025 #16

I sure hope you're right. Susan Calvin Aug 2025 #99

They stood their ground. They made their point. (TY for that) bluestarone Aug 2025 #19

Blue State Dems can play that game too RainCaster Aug 2025 #20

A Republican party this corrupt has to rule, not govern. Duncan Grant Aug 2025 #22

They did put up a fight. This is a fight they lost. Stop framing it as though they didn't try... Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #23

You consider a 10 day vacation sufficient to be equivalent to trying to fight Repubs? LonePirate Aug 2025 #27

In the real world, the "victory" you imagine will never happen. Oopsie Daisy Aug 2025 #31

Vacation? onenote Aug 2025 #68

Unrec MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #24

What bullshit framing. Just more opportunity to bash Democrats and make excuses for Republicans tritsofme Aug 2025 #25

They had to stay away until just before Christmas. Is five months too much to ask to save our country? LonePirate Aug 2025 #29

"unreasonable and unrealistic expectations about how this would end. " stopdiggin Aug 2025 #49

Thought walking out was an ineffective stunt to start with, but probably should have stuck with it once started. Silent Type Aug 2025 #33

Exactly. hamsterjill Aug 2025 #39

Fascists don't play ball, they play war and until we pull the same crap on them as they do on US ImNotGod Aug 2025 #35

Well said! We're bringing plastic water pistols to a fight against assault rifles. LonePirate Aug 2025 #47

"And people are dumbfounded as to why rank and file Democrats have such a negative opinion..." J_William_Ryan Aug 2025 #41

from the SAME link offered by the OP stopdiggin Aug 2025 #43

".. Democrats believe they've accomplished their mission by killing the first special session and by raising national Cha Aug 2025 #72

No sacrifice is too great for the common good sarisataka Aug 2025 #46

Right! MorbidButterflyTat Aug 2025 #118

They might have run out of money. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #48

the funding flows was what the Patel & FBI used to get involved cadoman Aug 2025 #105

I appreciate them showing their willingness to fight. The Texas GOP was always going to get what they wanted In It to Win It Aug 2025 #53

Looking forward to James Talarico's long anticipated announcement. SSJVegeta Aug 2025 #54

I heard from a state rep that they haven't decided yet and the media got ahead of things. LeftInTX Aug 2025 #55

Yes the headline in the OP is deceiving crud Aug 2025 #60

NO they didn't!!!!! DownriverDem Aug 2025 #56

I don't accept the Nazi takeover and will do everything within my power to stop it. usonian Aug 2025 #57

My opinion dcmfox Aug 2025 #58

I think waiting to see what happens before coming to a conclusion is not too much to ask. Eko Aug 2025 #61

No, they did NOT "throw in the towel" blogslug Aug 2025 #62

Mahlao, blogslug! And, Maybe some others Cha Aug 2025 #80

Maybe you could have posted the ACTUAL title of the aticle, and indicated, niyad Aug 2025 #64

All Texas will do is to trigger the blue States to engage in retaliation by redistricting to kick Republicans out. cstanleytech Aug 2025 #67

I think they're willing to have that fight FBaggins Aug 2025 #71

krum AllaN01Bear Aug 2025 #69

David Hogg looks more prescient by the day Arazi Aug 2025 #75

Nice spin you put on this one. johnp3907 Aug 2025 #77

Yeah, on a Democratic Board. Cha Aug 2025 #127

Sourcing please Picaro Aug 2025 #78

That's because there was never a problem in the Senate Rstrstx Aug 2025 #83

Thanks Picaro Aug 2025 #88

ABC news is NOT reporting that Texas Democrats have returned home lapucelle Aug 2025 #146

Did you try clicking the link in the original post at the top? Also, it's abc13.com not abc.com. LonePirate Aug 2025 #87

to them I say: if you can, pull up stakes and leave Texas. CTyankee Aug 2025 #81

Gen Z: It's up to you now. rickyhall Aug 2025 #85

while it makes me sad, I do feel for these people mountain grammy Aug 2025 #90

This may have already been asked up thread. Susan Calvin Aug 2025 #93

Why aren't the Senators breaking quorum? Susan Calvin Aug 2025 #94

What BS. They did what they could. If the fucking voters in Texas JI7 Aug 2025 #96

They know that in a battle of redistricting Mblaze Aug 2025 #97

For a minute there, I thought your title was ABC's... sheshe2 Aug 2025 #98

There is no difference between my headline and the headline in the article. I simply connected the dots. LonePirate Aug 2025 #104

You mislead. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #106

Mahlao, she! Really SAD the way Cha Aug 2025 #112

It is unbelievable to see on a Democratic board, Cha. sheshe2 Aug 2025 #119

I wish your posts would quit insulting our intelligence like that. Apart from niyad Aug 2025 #107

You're denying the reality of the situation. It is irrelevant whether they return today, tomorrow or next week. LonePirate Aug 2025 #110

remdi95 niyad Aug 2025 #121

Still no answer. Interesting. N/T lapucelle Aug 2025 #148

Sorry. That doesn't work on me. That's not your headline. lapucelle Aug 2025 #144

Yes because a second session will be called as soon as they are back home LonePirate Aug 2025 #145

Thanks for the admission that Texas Democrats have not returned home, that it were merely lapucelle Aug 2025 #147

I respect them for trying, and I think they brought attention to the issue. California, NY and other Blue States have Martin68 Aug 2025 #100

Why are Democrats polling, "favorability" gab13by13 Aug 2025 #113

Mommy, WHY DIDN'T DEMS STOP REPUBLICANS?! Never give Dems the benefit of the doubt, always assume bad motivations! betsuni Aug 2025 #116

The Whole GD World is being run by Cha Aug 2025 #129

Drama sells Keepthesoulalive Aug 2025 #130

Dangerous misleading Drama. Cha Aug 2025 #131

We must be careful Keepthesoulalive Aug 2025 #138

So, we've got 'TACO' Oeditpus Rex Aug 2025 #120

I wouldn't be so hard on the Texas Dems--- they are being fined $500 a day for their absence, Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #126

Agreed - however, that's the very reason why I was dumbfounded that they bothered to do this stunt in the first place. Midwestern Democrat Aug 2025 #141

Awareness, bringing this illegal gerrymandering into the public forum MagickMuffin Aug 2025 #169

To make a public stand against it, and draw public attention, Jack Valentino Aug 2025 #173

Your headline isn't accurate. TEXAS DEMOCRATS HAVE NOT RETURNED HOME. lapucelle Aug 2025 #132

What do you think you're gaining or proving by parsing an irrelevant language difference? LonePirate Aug 2025 #136

The difference between something that is true and something that is false lapucelle Aug 2025 #142

Except there is nothing false about saying they are giving up by coming home ahead of a second session. LonePirate Aug 2025 #143

"Bad things about Democrats" has turned into "disinformation about Democrats." W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #133

That's what "constructive criticism" means now. betsuni Aug 2025 #139

What we need now is for someone to scold us for faulting our mighty elected Democrats. Orrex Aug 2025 #134

There are some replies in here where people are raking me (the OP) over the coals. LonePirate Aug 2025 #135

A certain contingent has always done that Orrex Aug 2025 #137

"A certain contigent has always fact-shamed misinformation. lapucelle Aug 2025 #153

Exactly. Why is a purported Democrat, on a website that supports Democrats, posting disinformation about Democrats? W_HAMILTON Aug 2025 #156

There's an interesting point made in post 121. lapucelle Aug 2025 #158

Disinformation about Democrats depresses support which in turn depresses the vote. lapucelle Aug 2025 #159

NO they are NOT throwing the towel in. Does anybody actually read what the NEWS article said, or do some folks lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #149

Correct answer. No one was going to blink in TX JCMach1 Aug 2025 #151

I think we are essentially saying the same thing JC. lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #160

Yep. There is no way to derail this JCMach1 Aug 2025 #161

and Newsom here in California, and Pritzker in Illinois, and others are working to counter it in their lostincalifornia Aug 2025 #163

Disagree JustAnotherGen Aug 2025 #152

What happened has happened now is the time to put pressure on Eliot Rosewater Aug 2025 #154

Todays headline: Texas Democrats to return after governor ends special session that included redistricting, sources say republianmushroom Aug 2025 #155

This is not what happened at all obamanut2012 Aug 2025 #157

Not true senseandsensibility Aug 2025 #162

This is false. Why is it still here? mcar Aug 2025 #164

It's not false. They have agreed to return home which is tantamount to surrendering. LonePirate Aug 2025 #165

We were going to lose anyway-this was mainly to get media attention at how shitty the Pubs are n/t Just_Vote_Dem Aug 2025 #166

... lapucelle Aug 2025 #170

It's not accurate Nevilledog Aug 2025 #172

"Madame, we have given you a republic, if you can keep it." roamer65 Aug 2025 #171