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pat_k

(12,814 posts)
47. Herding Democrats can be harder than herding cats.
Mon Sep 29, 2025, 08:28 PM
Sep 2025

An end to the tendency to jump into circular firing squads would sure be nice, but I fear that such "arguments in the family" are a natural part of being a member of a very diverse party.

That said, I've actually been quite pleased that we are seeing an unusual level of unity in meeting the challenge of opposing the 47 regime. And while I'd love for the entire party to follow the sort of rule we have here (fight it out all you want in primary season, but come together behind the nominee), we don't have any party "enforcers." And I am very, very grateful we don't.



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Yeah. mr715 Sep 2025 #1
"We have a Democratic nominee. Are we a party who rallies behind our nominee or not?," Emile Sep 2025 #2
YES! InAbLuEsTaTe Sep 2025 #58
Unfortunately and some times it's wrong, but Democrats do have different opinions especially ....... Lovie777 Sep 2025 #3
I am with you. Cuomo's term, like Bloomberg's had much that was awful in it, and much that Scrivener7 Sep 2025 #5
there is always the least bad choice . just be grateful for any vote he gets no matter how begrudging msongs Sep 2025 #24
It really is that simple. sdfernando Sep 2025 #4
I don't think endorsements should be automatic newdeal2 Sep 2025 #6
How about, if you can't, in good conscience, endorse the candidate, then don't say anything? MIButterfly Sep 2025 #9
I'm not a New Yorker... the people will make the final decision, soon. WarGamer Sep 2025 #7
What exactly is the "establishment" doing to harm Mamdani? SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #8
Mamdani is not taking any harm mr715 Sep 2025 #10
How? SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #12
I'll do my best, I'll try to be logical. mr715 Sep 2025 #14
Most endorsements in 21 SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #15
How about Cuomo? mr715 Sep 2025 #16
F*ck Cuomo SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #18
Ha! mr715 Sep 2025 #19
Then what is the "establishment" doing? SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #21
You say fuck Cuomo mr715 Sep 2025 #23
Cuomo is not part of the establishment SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #27
I've done my best to articulate my reasoning. mr715 Sep 2025 #30
And I've asked you to cite SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #36
Cuomo was establishment Democrat until he declared himself himself IND after losing the Dem primary. thesquanderer Sep 2025 #62
Cuomo sucks SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #64
While they may not be withholding funds, I doubt the party machinery under Jacobs is working to elect him, either. thesquanderer Sep 2025 #67
That's supposition SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #68
I still think he's part of the establishment since he didn't resign and disappear Tribetime Sep 2025 #81
That's an opinion SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #83
Excellent reply! I believe this is a leadership test. Emile Sep 2025 #20
No, it's a purity test. SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #22
Who is looking for purity? mr715 Sep 2025 #25
Sure they could SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #29
What is your definition of establishment? nt mr715 Sep 2025 #33
National and state party officials SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #37
It isn't just me. mr715 Sep 2025 #38
Again I couldn't care less SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #42
Even if endorsements are not important... thesquanderer Sep 2025 #63
Endorsements are bs SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #65
Populists use the label Establishment to identify and demonize imaginary corrupt enemies out to get them. betsuni Sep 2025 #74
re: "a disgraced former governor who was forced to resign and is now running as an independent." thesquanderer Oct 2025 #88
Endorsments: Mamdani vs Cuomo SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2025 #89
Good link, ty. But there is this perception that the big players in the party are not enthusaistic about him... thesquanderer Oct 2025 #90
It's coming from the corporate media SocialDemocrat61 Oct 2025 #91
Are we a party who rallies behind our nominee or not? Emile Sep 2025 #40
We should be SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #43
As I said, it's a leadership test! Emile Sep 2025 #44
And as I said SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #45
Gillibrand lives in N.Y. Booker does not. There is no reason for Booker to endorse candidates for another state. 3Hotdogs Sep 2025 #46
Gillibrand lives in upstate New York SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #48
Moynihan had a term, "Benign neglect." 3Hotdogs Sep 2025 #49
Yes he did SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #52
gotta wait 'till February fund raiser. 3Hotdogs Sep 2025 #54
Well I'll still give a heart now ❤️ SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #56
Now I want a heart. nt mr715 Sep 2025 #57
Ok here you go ❤️ SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #59
Just a respectful, thought provoking discussion. And a heart. NT mr715 Sep 2025 #60
I am not a New Yorker and have no ball in this game. sheshe2 Sep 2025 #11
It's a purity test SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #17
You are correct. sheshe2 Sep 2025 #28
I've asked for SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #34
Why is anyone obligated to answer questions you ask? Violet_Crumble Sep 2025 #66
They are not SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #69
Conspiracy theory that Democrats are corrupted by donors, oligarchs, billionaires, corporations, lobbyists, betsuni Sep 2025 #75
I'm not from New York, I simply don't care about this election. tritsofme Sep 2025 #13
We're the greatest city in the world mr715 Sep 2025 #26
Also a strong democratic socialist movement may convince applegrove Sep 2025 #31
Either way the Democrat Party wins Glen Livid Sep 2025 #32
Democratic not Democrat. nt BWdem4life Sep 2025 #41
George Carlin has already told us why. aeromanKC Sep 2025 #35
We need to support the new guard Chicagogrl1 Sep 2025 #39
Amen LilElf70 Sep 2025 #51
"We need to support the new guard" sheshe2 Sep 2025 #53
In the movie Logan"s Run SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #55
Dayum, fifty could be the new old and in the way. sheshe2 Sep 2025 #61
Then "new guard" gets same "disappointment" complaints, into the Status Quo Establishment binder they go. betsuni Sep 2025 #79
Herding Democrats can be harder than herding cats. pat_k Sep 2025 #47
Well said Cirsium Sep 2025 #50
re: " It shouldn't be who the establishment wants it to be or who they think it should be or whose turn it is" thesquanderer Sep 2025 #70
He should become a Democrat LyfeTimeDem Sep 2025 #71
Mamdani is a democrat SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #72
he is a self-identified Socialist LyfeTimeDem Sep 2025 #73
He's a member of the Democratic Party SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #80
Yep Coumo & Adams shouldnt be running IbogaProject Sep 2025 #76
The old Democrats have to step aside bob4460 Sep 2025 #77
How do you define old? SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #85
Sanders doesn't identify as a Democrat n/t MichMan Sep 2025 #86
True SocialDemocrat61 Sep 2025 #87
Post removed Post removed Sep 2025 #78
He is a Democrat. It's time to show support for the democratic nominee. Emile Sep 2025 #84
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