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Bluetus

(2,079 posts)
13. We need a new culture in the Party ...
Thu Nov 6, 2025, 12:08 PM
Nov 6

where it is honorable to serve the people well, and it is also honorable to pass the baton to the next generations.

Here is one way to think about it. The whole point is supposed to be about leaving a better place for our children and the next 5 generations. Adulthood/maturity is something like age 30-90. But extremes of youth lack wisdom and the extremes of age tend toward narrow views and less mental and physical energy. Moreover, after about age 70, the younger people have a much, much greater stake in the future, and therefore ought to have the majority of decision-making.

On this basis, I'd say the optimal age for a person entering the national level of politics is 40-50 and we really have to question anybody running after age 70. Even if they are still very capable, they simply don't have a stake in the outcomes that younger people do.

We need to honor those who have served, and I have long felt we should do more to give them a voice in retirement. I would love to see, for example, a Council of Presidents where all the former Presidents and Vice Presidents meet quarterly or semi-annually for a national town hall where they discuss how we are doing as a nation, our big challenges and our big opportunities. Certainly the retired leaders of the House and Senate could be part of this. Not a political debate, but statesmen and women rising above politics to speak honestly about things that are important to all of us.

In Pelosi's case, we should honor her, but it is past time to retire. It is notable that she never endorsed the Democratic candidate for NYC Mayor, which is her right, of course. But she and Cuomo are both from a generation where they want a little progress but not too much progress. Perhaps she decided long ago to retire, but after Tuesday's election, it is clear that we are into a generational change for certain, and we will be electing people who reflect more than the politics of status quo.

Back to the first principle about leaving a better place, well there has been some progress During Pelosi's years, but I don't think anybody can look at the ICE Gestapo in masks and unmarked vehicles kidnapping people in plain sight, armies invading our cities, bulldozers at the White House, a President making billions by pardoning the crook who set him up with crypto riches, a House that hasn't come to work for almost 2 months, the threat to invade 4 countries for no reason simultaneously -- all these things, and still conclude she is leaving with the country in a better place. I do not blame Pelosi individually for this, but her generation of politicians was far too conciliatory while this fascism was gathering energy. I hope Tuesday will be seen as the day that Democrats (and Independents) finally turned the page, saying "No More Status Quo".

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I've always admired her... and I continue to do so. QueerDuck Nov 6 #1
In recent years she was often the only adult in the room. * 617Blue Nov 6 #5
She's been treated with such contempt and disrespect, even among our own... it was embarrassing and maddening to see. QueerDuck Nov 6 #6
Kinda like how Joe was treated tintinvotes Nov 6 #10
She is a class act. Thank you Nancy! boston bean Nov 6 #2
Thank you Madam Speaker. * 617Blue Nov 6 #3
Thank you for your service Madam Speaker SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #4
We need a new culture in the Party ... Bluetus Nov 6 #13
Pelosi lives in San Francisco not New York SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #14
She certainly has been right out front directly attacking AOC Bluetus Nov 6 #16
Not the question I asked. SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #17
She certainly has weighed in on her opinion of New York politicians, so yes. Bluetus Nov 6 #21
Who did she endorse for mayor and what year? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #23
She is a national politician. She has given her opinions about candidates all over. Bluetus Nov 6 #24
And NYC Mayor is a local office. SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #25
I think you took one line out of a thoughtful if not entirely correct comment and grievance shopped? Ilikepurple Nov 6 #27
Because he made a false accusation SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #28
What lie? What was the false accusation? There was no attack in the meaningful sense of the word. Ilikepurple Nov 6 #39
Yes there was SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #40
You could have just asked Bluetus to respect the retirement thread and start a new discussion Ilikepurple Nov 6 #42
I'll respond to people as I like SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #44
For the record, I think Bluetus's statement on Pelosi's NYC mayor endorsements is wrong. Ilikepurple Nov 7 #51
Thanks but SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #52
He took one line and completely twisted it into something I didn't say. Bluetus Nov 6 #31
This was a thread about Pelosi's retirement SocialDemocrat61 Nov 6 #38
You attributed to me something I did not say. That is called a STRAW MAN argument. Bluetus Nov 6 #41
You slammed Pelosi for not endorsing Mamdani, that's the straw man SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #43
Post removed Post removed Nov 7 #46
You chose to respond to my post SocialDemocrat61 Nov 7 #49
Why Are You Attacking Nancy Pelosi. Cha Nov 6 #19
Am I? Is there anything I said that wasn't true? Bluetus Nov 6 #22
Why are you calling this an attack? Your reply is more of an attack? Ilikepurple Nov 6 #29
Did you write that? leftstreet Nov 6 #30
I wrote it. It is a bit rough, but I hope it is clear enough. Bluetus Nov 6 #33
It's really good leftstreet Nov 6 #35
When has Pelosi criticized AOC? yardwork Nov 6 #32
This goes back a few years Bluetus Nov 6 #36
Nonsense. That's a slanted opinion piece. yardwork Nov 7 #45
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Nov 6 #34
Thank you Mme. Speaker... for everything. FalloutShelter Nov 6 #7
i assumed she wd step down when her bff mopinko Nov 6 #8
A great and effective leader. themaguffin Nov 6 #9
My thanks to her for the long and good service! MineralMan Nov 6 #11
MAGAts will gladly give up their SNAP bennies and starve for this news. Turbineguy Nov 6 #12
I'll miss her experience and savvy. Torchlight Nov 6 #15
Speaker Pelosi mr715 Nov 6 #18
Congratulations on a Life Time of Staller Cha Nov 6 #20
❤️ underpants Nov 6 #26
We'll meet again struggle4progress Nov 6 #37
Remember when this song was used at the end of Dr. Strangelove? dwayneb Nov 7 #48
Sad to see her go... dwayneb Nov 7 #47
What was your favorite Nancy Pelosi moment? LetMyPeopleVote Nov 7 #50
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