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Wiz Imp

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26. MUST READ: explanation for why Jackson did what she did here:
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 10:59 PM
Nov 2025
https://www.stevevladeck.com/p/190-snap-wtf

Key points here:
As for why Justice Jackson did it, to me, the clue is the last sentence. Had Jackson refused to issue an administrative stay, it’s entirely possible (indeed, she may already have known) that a majority of her colleagues were ready to do it themselves. I still think that this is what happened back in April when the full Court intervened shortly before 1 a.m., without explaining why Justice Alito hadn’t, in the A.A.R.P. Alien Enemies Act case. And from Jackson’s perspective, an administrative stay from the full Court would’ve been worse—almost certainly because it would have been open-ended (that is, it would not have had a deadline). The upshot would’ve been that Judge McConnell’s order could’ve remained frozen indefinitely while the full Court took its time. Yesterday’s grant of a stay in Trump v. Orr, for instance, came 48 days after the Justice Department first sought emergency relief.

Instead, by keeping the case for herself and granting the same relief, in contrast, Justice Jackson was able to directly influence the timing in both the First Circuit and the Supreme Court, at least for now. She nudged the First Circuit (which I expect to rule by the end of the weekend, Monday at the latest); and, assuming that court rules against the Trump administration, she also tied her colleagues’ hands—by having her administrative stay expire 48 hours after the First Circuit rules. Of course, the full Court can extend the administrative stay (and Jackson can do it herself). But this way, at least, she’s putting pressure on everyone—the First Circuit and the full Court—to move very quickly in deciding whether or not Judge McConnell’s orders should be allowed to go into effect. From where I’m sitting, that’s why Justice Jackson, the most vocal critic among the justices of the Court’s behavior in Trump-related emergency applications, ruled herself here—rather than allowing the full Court to overrule her. It drastically increases the odds of the full Supreme Court resolving this issue by the end of next week—one way or the other.

I am, of course, just speculating. But if so, I think it’s both a savvy move from Justice Jackson and a pretty powerful rejoinder to the increasingly noisy (and ugly) criticisms of her behavior from the right. Given the gravity of this issue, it makes all the sense in the world for a justice in Jackson’s position to do whatever she could to ensure that the underlying question (must the USDA fully fund SNAP for November?) is resolved as quickly as possible—even if that first means pausing Judge McConnell’s rulings for a couple of days. If the alternative was a longer pause of McConnell’s rulings, then this was the best-case scenario, at least for now. And regardless, imposing this compromise herself, rather than forcing her colleagues to overrule her, is, to me, a sign of a justice who takes her institutional responsibilities quite seriously, indeed—even when they lead away from the result she might otherwise have preferred if it were entirely up to her.
Imagine the shit that ensues dweller Nov 2025 #1
California paid snap..... Lovie777 Nov 2025 #2
4 or 5 states paid SNAP funds in full dweller Nov 2025 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author choie Nov 2025 #18
I read the comments and am now wondering how this is gonna play out..there has to be a good reason Deuxcents Nov 2025 #3
It's past time for us to stop choie Nov 2025 #22
It 'past time for us to stop thinking we are more compassionate, smarter, more knowledgeable than Jackson. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #67
Speak for yourself BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #84
Are you a judge? yardwork Nov 2025 #89
Why would she do this? BlueKota Nov 2025 #4
See posts 26 and 28 onenote Nov 2025 #33
Don't wanna fucking hear it orangecrush Nov 2025 #54
A closed mind makes mistakes. She did the best thing under the circumstances. Don't be a closed mind. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #60
Defending evil is never a good look. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #69
Neither Jackson nor I am defending evil. I'm sure Jackson is every bit as compassionate as you are. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #71
Jackson's behavior is shocking, the optics are terrible. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #73
Since you know better, explain how she could have / should have done better. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #75
Personal attacks are a sign of a weak argument. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #78
You made no argument. I made no personal attack. You attacked me as "defending evil". Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #79
There seems to always be a reason angrychair Nov 2025 #117
Jackson chose a strict limit of several days TommyT139 Nov 2025 #83
TommyT139, thank you! some_of_us_are_sane Nov 2025 #109
Calm down. yardwork Nov 2025 #90
What the fuck? choie Nov 2025 #5
EXACTLY orangecrush Nov 2025 #55
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #61
To quote what TommyT139 explained some_of_us_are_sane Nov 2025 #112
This actually seems like business as usual for Supreme Court cases. unblock Nov 2025 #6
Exactly, people can stop clutching their pearls. gab13by13 Nov 2025 #8
The fastest way to deal with it was to deny the stay BlueKota Nov 2025 #9
Exactly. choie Nov 2025 #10
Yeah why worry about little kids going without BlueKota Nov 2025 #11
if she denied the stay, the administration could immediately go to any other justice and ask for it. onenote Nov 2025 #25
Because her job is to interpret the law, not set policy Jose Garcia Nov 2025 #38
You show me where in the Constitution it says BlueKota Nov 2025 #48
Just bc you are right on this point does not mean that Jackson didn't do the best thing at this stage of the process. nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #65
Perhaps you're unaware of what a shut down is? FBaggins Nov 2025 #88
and you must not have heard choie Nov 2025 #115
Not funds that Congress appropriated for SNAP benefits FBaggins Nov 2025 #118
What does that have to do with Jackson's stay? choie Nov 2025 #119
It was in the context of BK's argument above FBaggins Nov 2025 #122
Black & White thinking usually gives you a less than clear picture Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #29
Thank you. This over reaction business vanlassie Nov 2025 #34
Yes. Angry warriors die on the battlefied without helping the end goal. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #66
Condescension is noted. choie Nov 2025 #116
Do you need SNAP? choie Nov 2025 #14
Exactly BlueKota Nov 2025 #17
So you think 6 weeks would be better? Jackson is smarter than you and cut it down to 2 or 3 days. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #68
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #86
Bookmarking for later. n/t rzemanfl Nov 2025 #101
Hopefully there's no point FBaggins Nov 2025 #103
November 2025 SNAP is reported to have been paid in full Rocknation Nov 2025 #12
and...what? choie Nov 2025 #16
Yes, they have. valleyrogue Nov 2025 #37
Not in Illinois Beringia Nov 2025 #51
People need to calm down Dangling0826 Nov 2025 #13
Again that's easy to say BlueKota Nov 2025 #15
am currently using snap many states today have released the funds I got mine at noon Dangling0826 Nov 2025 #19
I am glad some people got them including you, BlueKota Nov 2025 #21
If she did what do you think the full court would do? Dangling0826 Nov 2025 #27
That's great for you. choie Nov 2025 #23
You are assuming that if Justice Jackson denied the stay gab13by13 Nov 2025 #20
No but I read a lot of commentary from lawyers BlueKota Nov 2025 #24
"So why are the courts, especially the SC, continuing to let him..." In It to Win It Nov 2025 #31
Why do they keep granting the appeals? BlueKota Nov 2025 #41
Unlike SCOTUS, circuit courts don't have a say in whether to hear or consider appeals or not In It to Win It Nov 2025 #42
There's that black and white thinking again Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #32
I have read the Constitution multiple times. BlueKota Nov 2025 #43
If you've read the constitution, then you know how appeals work Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #44
You show me where in the Constitution it says BlueKota Nov 2025 #47
Go read the constitution again Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #49
Never mind. BlueKota Nov 2025 #53
The tangerine tyrant wants you to get emotional. Emotion blinds people and makes them ineffective Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #76
A suggestion that I found helps me is volunteering EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #98
Thank you that is a great suggestion. BlueKota Nov 2025 #106
For me at least, donating is harder because I don't see the good in the short term EdmondDantes_ Nov 2025 #110
Fair enough Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #104
Thank you for understanding. BlueKota Nov 2025 #107
She couldn't have "ended it tonight". onenote Nov 2025 #35
Are you certain about that, Blue? vanlassie Nov 2025 #36
He has no authority under the Constitution BlueKota Nov 2025 #45
It's procedural, a technicality. n/t valleyrogue Nov 2025 #40
MUST READ: explanation for why Jackson did what she did here: Wiz Imp Nov 2025 #26
Thank you. As I posted above, I don't expect most DUers to understand the intricacies of SCOTUS procedure onenote Nov 2025 #28
Again the Constitution does not give the President BlueKota Nov 2025 #50
Everybody here knows what you're saying is true. YOU need to understand that the question is not about the constitution bluestarone Nov 2025 #108
I apologize. BlueKota Nov 2025 #111
Hey, i fully understand. I myself gets so pissed at how things are going here. bluestarone Nov 2025 #114
Thanks for posting that Fiendish Thingy Nov 2025 #39
My outrage is because people are starving and BlueKota Nov 2025 #46
Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #52
I GET REAL FUCKING ARROGANT orangecrush Nov 2025 #58
Your "arrogance" (your word) won't fix the problem. Jackson did what she had to do to prevent it from being worse. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #62
This is our country, not yours BeerBarrelPolka Nov 2025 #87
Now that I've stopped hyperventilating orangecrush Nov 2025 #100
Thank you. yardwork Nov 2025 #91
Thanks. Echoing this point: mahatmakanejeeves Nov 2025 #93
The Hill's explanation... allegorical oracle Nov 2025 #95
Given that it was Jackson, I knew there would be some issue like this behind it. Scrivener7 Nov 2025 #102
A somewhat legal explanation is provided here dweller Nov 2025 #30
THERE IS NO FUCKING EXPLANATON orangecrush Nov 2025 #56
yeh dweller Nov 2025 #57
Simplicity is no replacement for Jackson's sophisticated operation of the legal machinery to prevent worse events. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #63
If she is so sophisticated and smart, couldn't she come up with a solution that did not make Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #70
She is constrained by the law. I'm sure she has a much deeper understanding of it that I or you do. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #72
She works for the American people and needs to explain herself. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #74
Jackson is aligning against those who starve children. She is NOT aligning with those who do. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #82
You live in a country which is a constitutional monarchy, the British King is your head of state. Irish_Dem Nov 2025 #80
Do not distract by telling me about the monarchy I do not want. I'm well aware of it. Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #81
I agree that Jackson is doing her best, but this seems more of a tactical decision than legal. Ilikepurple Nov 2025 #85
My amateur sense is that Jackson knows that a majority of the Court is against us. yardwork Nov 2025 #92
This message was self-deleted by its author Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2025 #64
There is no explanation for this sort of sentiment, other than ignorance. tritsofme Nov 2025 #94
Let the adults in the room handle these decisions. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #96
I understand now orangecrush Nov 2025 #97
Thank you for your understanding. And this is why it is up to us. W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #105
I agree orangecrush Nov 2025 #113
... CatWoman Nov 2025 #59
America really hates its poor. RandySF Nov 2025 #77
I get the legal reasoning behind it Samael13 Nov 2025 #99
How long will people go without food before there's widespread rioting and looting? NickB79 Nov 2025 #120
Of course she did the right thing. Had the crime brothers tavernier Nov 2025 #121
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