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Celerity

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Sat Nov 8, 2025, 07:50 PM Nov 8

Why Does Schumer Keep Trying to Cave? [View all]

How the Senate Democratic leader and his Gang of Eight keep trying to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.


https://prospect.org/2025/11/08/why-does-schumer-keep-trying-to-cave-government-shutdown/


Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., speaks to reporters about Democratic victories on Election Day, at the Capitol in Washington, Wednesday, Nov. 5, 2025, day 36 of the government shutdown. Credit: AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite

Most commentators, including me, concluded that the Tuesday election victory saved Democrats from capitulating to Republican demands to pass a simple continuing resolution to re-open the government, in exchange for vague assurances of a vote on Affordable Care Act subsidies that amount to nothing. But my reporting finds that at the Thursday meeting of the Senate Democratic caucus, two days after the election, Democrats very nearly capitulated once again.

Here’s what occurred. It has been widely assumed that the group of eight mostly centrist Senate Democrats, who have been looking to broker a hollow deal on Republican terms, were free-lancing. In fact, they were acting with the express approval of Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and were reporting to him daily. At Thursday’s meeting, they told their caucus colleagues that they now had ten votes to re-open the government in exchange for no real Republican concessions. At that, much of the rest of the caucus went ballistic, and some of the supposed ten said that, in fact, they were not willing to vote for any such deal. The leaders of the proposed Democratic cave-in, Sens. Maggie Hassan and Jeanne Shaheen, both of New Hampshire, and Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada, then backed down.

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The mystery is why Schumer keeps flirting with capitulation in exchange for nothing. Democrats have the political momentum, Republicans are divided, and a majority of voters blame Republicans for the shutdown. Schumer himself faces a likely primary challenge for his own Senate seat. He is even more vulnerable if he presides over a Democratic capitulation.

Equally bizarre is Shaheen’s game, since she is not even running for re-election when her term expires in 2026. She is on the Appropriations Committee, and part of the weak Republican offer is to pass the appropriations bills that have gone through the committee on a bipartisan basis. Clearly, Shaheen is more concerned with getting those bills done than using important leverage to protect the signature Democratic legislative achievement of this century. Even when Schumer and centrist Democrats have been dealt a strong hand, these are the sort of players who would fold a royal flush.

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B/c he is never punished for his failures and capitulations with a loss of position. RockRaven Nov 8 #1
Democrat Who Caved on Shutdown Says Chuck Schumer Knew All Along Celerity Nov 10 #60
Because he's weak. Chuck is no Harry Reid Historic NY Nov 8 #2
Reid caved to Mitch and we did not get legislation through. GreenWave Nov 9 #38
Reid got Obamacare ACA through Historic NY Nov 9 #40
5 yrs of pachyderm filbusters and then he changed the rules 2013 5th yr of Obama's presidency. GreenWave Nov 9 #53
Well that is certainly a creative re-write of history. tritsofme Nov 9 #42
60 votes or bust was in vogue too long. GreenWave Nov 9 #52
I don't know what that is supposed to mean. tritsofme Nov 9 #55
Schumer is not the leader for this moment. yellow dahlia Nov 8 #3
He wants a deal , even a bad deal to pretend that he still knows what he's doing Bread and Circuses Nov 8 #4
... orangecrush Nov 8 #5
There's talk from House reps that he's more concerned for the airline industry that are screaming to end the shutdown pecosbob Nov 8 #6
Maybe contributions are down. AltairIV Nov 9 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author dalton99a Nov 8 #7
This propaganda piece from the left damn near has me breaking my pledge to never link to a certain website. W_HAMILTON Nov 8 #8
the article discusses that Celerity Nov 8 #10
The article is a biased piece of shit. It was not a negotiated deal by Democrats, much less Schumer. W_HAMILTON Nov 8 #11
disagree with your framing attempts, as it was a group of centrist Dems who floated the idea (most Dems said NO) to Celerity Nov 8 #12
WRONG. And the article is outdated, but since we are linking the previously referenced fascist friendly outlet: W_HAMILTON Nov 9 #44
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 9 #59
TY.. it is a really sad shame. Cha Nov 8 #17
So damn tiring. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 9 #49
I really Appreciate your Cha Nov 9 #57
Why does this surprise anyone? gab13by13 Nov 8 #9
Good fuckin question!! We're FINALLY startin to win again and Schumer is lookin to capitulate?? HELL NO!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 8 #13
he needs to follow Pelosi's lead Skittles Nov 8 #14
Post removed Post removed Nov 8 #15
No Sen Schumer is Not that at All. Cha Nov 8 #18
We'll have to agree to disagree. Grim Chieftain Nov 8 #19
Why should I believe a word of this? Wiz Imp Nov 8 #16
The assignment is to put "cave" in as many headlines about Democrats, especially Schumer, as possible. betsuni Nov 8 #20
lol Cha Nov 8 #21
Because the American Prospect has a high Factual and Credibility rating. Emile Nov 9 #22
No... it also says they have a LEFT BIAS. QueerDuck Nov 9 #25
I don't post links to right-wing bias publications. Emile Nov 9 #27
Nobody said otherwise. QueerDuck Nov 9 #31
Good to know. I hate to think a left-wing bias publication Emile Nov 9 #32
You're welcome. QueerDuck Nov 9 #33
Your very oddly edited first paragraph is extremely misleading, at best. sl8 Nov 9 #29
Thanks for the update. QueerDuck Nov 9 #30
Why? Because you left out the "may", which made your claim untrue muriel_volestrangler Nov 9 #54
Their anti-Dem agenda is obvious. Many things are obvious about this thread... QueerDuck Nov 9 #23
CNN reported on the same story too. Emile Nov 9 #24
No that's not the same story. Please. QueerDuck Nov 9 #26
Did you read that article? Because even it directly refutes the bullshit article in the OP. W_HAMILTON Nov 9 #47
THANK YOU MorbidButterflyTat Nov 9 #50
Mahalo For Explaining! I Know It's Cha Nov 9 #58
Last Tuesday screamed the following message, gab13by13 Nov 9 #28
Unless I misunderstood the deal TheFarseer Nov 9 #34
"Capitulation in exchange for nothing." Paladin Nov 9 #35
Long past time for Chuck to pass the baton johnnyfins Nov 9 #36
Good article, thanks for posting SocialDemocrat61 Nov 9 #37
"The sort of players who would fold a royal flush." Kid Berwyn Nov 9 #39
Useless VanceFan Nov 9 #41
Because millions of US citizens are starting to starve? krawhitham Nov 9 #43
I've seen posts on DU where people seem to have this fantasy that we can keep the government shut down for several more Midwestern Democrat Nov 9 #45
Excuse me, it's the majority party that shut down Emile Nov 9 #48
He is a member of the democrat's old guard. republianmushroom Nov 9 #46
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