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pat_k

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39. There is a place for shunning, but ultimately, I firmly believe engagement is how we find our way back.
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 12:43 PM
Nov 2025

Consider Mandami engaging with, and really listening to, trump voters.

Consider Deeyah Khan engaging with White Supremacists in her "My documentary about White Supremacy. White Right: Meeting the Enemy."

Deeyah is a courageous and compassionate woman. She wades into the lion's den and focuses on feelings, and how she, and the people she talks to, came to adopt the beliefs they have adopted-- and how those beliefs personally affect her.

Narrative of the whys and lived experience, instead of tossing opposing conclusions at each other, is how we can connect on a human level.

And frankly, whether it sparks reevaluation is not the point. She did not go into this with any expectations of convincing the people she spoke to. She went in with genuine curiosity. The paradox of going in to listen, and being real about where we are, with no expectations, is more powerful than arguing a "fact-based" or logical case.

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K & R SunSeeker Nov 2025 #1
Not too late to stop supporting him lame54 Nov 2025 #2
You got what you wanted. Trump in the WH. Norrrm Nov 2025 #3
Well, she got what she wanted. Liberals are pissed off. DFW Nov 2025 #5
Learning Braille would be a sign that she has any interest in, or aptitude for, reading. Aristus Nov 2025 #9
Yep, it's exactly what she voted for -- for others to suffer. Braille? Never! wordstroken Nov 2025 #24
Wow! Conjuay Nov 2025 #38
womp womp my dear. FAFO WhiteTara Nov 2025 #8
"When you say 'waste, fraud, and abuse' you mean other people; when every other RockRaven Nov 2025 #4
When a magat cries an angle gets their wings! paleotn Nov 2025 #6
An acute observation to a large degree BaronChocula Nov 2025 #18
I have no sympathy for MAGAs Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #7
I say, "of course it's not what you voted for. Only an evil troglodyte would vote for... Ol Janx Spirit Nov 2025 #10
Not sure that would work with the Black & Hispanic males who switched to Trump in the 2024 prez election Martin Eden Nov 2025 #11
It's not meant to SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #12
I should have clarified that "in general" applied to any Trump voter Martin Eden Nov 2025 #14
You're right SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #16
Many are being shamed BaronChocula Nov 2025 #20
Shame by community example can be effective Martin Eden Nov 2025 #23
I'm a little obsessed with figuring out BaronChocula Nov 2025 #28
The media environment is not conducive to rational choices Martin Eden Nov 2025 #30
Yup. FAFO. Joinfortmill Nov 2025 #13
A lesson that so many of his cult need to have happen. OldBaldy1701E Nov 2025 #33
Me: "No. You voted for a psychopath!" Grins Nov 2025 #15
I Haven't seen too many crying. Demobrat Nov 2025 #17
You're lucky SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #19
Lucky? I'd rather see them cry than gloat. Demobrat Nov 2025 #21
Ain't That A Shame... 3catwoman3 Nov 2025 #22
Perhaps extend a little grace? pat_k Nov 2025 #25
With these people? SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #26
Sure, if one of them was expressing anger at the Un-American, cruel, intolerable agenda harming them and their neighbors pat_k Nov 2025 #27
Really depends SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #29
Same answer as #39 pat_k Nov 2025 #41
Way too early to be cutting these shitheads any slack. Paladin Nov 2025 #32
Same answer as #39 pat_k Nov 2025 #40
I commend your good heart SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #43
That's a given. I'd say 25-35% of Americans have been lost racist fucks for as long as i've been alive. pat_k Nov 2025 #44
Shunning is a practice not nearly practiced enough in this society. travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #34
There is a place for shunning, but ultimately, I firmly believe engagement is how we find our way back. pat_k Nov 2025 #39
Thanks for sharing Martin Eden Nov 2025 #31
I haven't heard this yet D_Master81 Nov 2025 #35
I would assume SocialDemocrat61 Nov 2025 #36
An angel gets its wings? Swede Nov 2025 #37
If they didn't know what they were voting for, then they should have listened to us... W_HAMILTON Nov 2025 #42
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