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Prairie Gates

(7,603 posts) Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:37 PM Nov 2025

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Trump Won the Shutdown [View all]

This is a hard pill to swallow, but it's true.

Trump said give them nothing. Don't even meet with them. Fire their people. Take away their food. Shut off the planes. Continue to attack them in their cities. Drag them off to detention. Indict them. Give them nothing. Don't even meet with them.

And he didn't.

And the Dems blinked.

There's not really another way to see this.

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Trump Won the Shutdown [View all] Prairie Gates Nov 2025 OP

Again. Squaredeal Nov 2025 #1

So now they know deprivation is a weapon leftstreet Nov 2025 #2

Gives a whole new meaning to "We are the Ones We're Waiting For." Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #4

He was using all the Americans as hostages. And he was threatening to kill them all yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #22

Abd they will use it time and slightlv Nov 2025 #32

THIS officially marks popsdenver Nov 2025 #124

We had so much enthusiasm & positive energy. CrispyQ Nov 2025 #3

Well. Why protest? Our leaders slightlv Nov 2025 #34

It was eight people creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #135

It was an engineered vote. CentralMass Nov 2025 #138

Where is your evidence? creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #144

It wasn't eight people LR3 Nov 2025 #141

Where is your evidence? creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #143

Agreed! jcmaine72 Nov 2025 #87

Agree, why protest ? republianmushroom Nov 2025 #123

Not really....................... Lovie777 Nov 2025 #5

I agree but what would you have them do? berkerly6240 Nov 2025 #6

Fuck off orangecrush Nov 2025 #7

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #21

"What would you have THEM do?" Lancero Nov 2025 #24

I wasn't telling you to fuck off orangecrush Nov 2025 #27

Also the word bitch orangecrush Nov 2025 #29

If they were going to cave, then why hold out this long? hamsterjill Nov 2025 #9

It was a mistake to let the government shut down at all gulliver Nov 2025 #97

Agreed mostly. hamsterjill Nov 2025 #102

It was an uphill battle unfortunately gulliver Nov 2025 #108

I absolutely hope that YOU are correct. hamsterjill Nov 2025 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #117

I'm funny to you? gulliver Nov 2025 #122

Start by making the ACA/healthcare non-negotiable. tinrobot Nov 2025 #12

It's the only thing that they were holding out for... Hugin Nov 2025 #14

And they chose to give Bettie Nov 2025 #107

They should have held the line, and dug in deeper. Repug voters have not felt enough pain yet. Hotler Nov 2025 #88

Hold the line quakerboy Nov 2025 #118

Obamacare a gone Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #8

I'm one of those. I'm beyond furious and into despair Arazi Nov 2025 #15

Peculiar that the Trump admin undid the Biden rule against reporting medical debt on peoples credit scores. ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #66

Peculiar? BWdem4life Nov 2025 #73

More property for them to buy! Vance and Thiel are more than ready to sell all our land travelingthrulife Nov 2025 #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2025 #18

Democrats will deserve it. They've been holding donor interest LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #20

Really? All Democrats? You think I'm responsible? Bobstandard Nov 2025 #35

Fine they should get what they deserve vercetti2021 Nov 2025 #36

4d chess. Republicans refuse to pass the ACA extensions, and we can blame them... Lancero Nov 2025 #26

No Jon Stewart was right Bobstandard Nov 2025 #37

It's not millions of Americans angrychair Nov 2025 #31

Yes, the republicans pitted federal workers against SNAP recipients vs those benefiting from the ACA fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #46

What happened is that the private jet donor class set was about to be inconvenienced by the real world repercussions of. Hugin Nov 2025 #10

This is the correct answer. The donors were about to be inconvenienced by airport shutdowns. They forced Dems to cave. LonePirate Nov 2025 #53

This right here fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #77

It wasn't the leadership that caved. creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #136

Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 2025 #83

You nailed it Ruby the Liberal Nov 2025 #84

He also said No Compromise ... and eliminate the filibuster dweller Nov 2025 #11

I hate trump with a fiery passion EnergizedLib Nov 2025 #13

Fortitude appears to be in short supply Bobstandard Nov 2025 #38

Such incredible weakness by the leaders of the Democratic Party ..... Escape Nov 2025 #16

Isn't AOC after his senate seat in 2028? ClaudetteCC Nov 2025 #17

She'd win in a landslide LR3 Nov 2025 #142

Trump won the shutdown venusgirl Nov 2025 #19

You do have to think the caving Senators have made special deals Bobstandard Nov 2025 #39

Then they are fools. No deals are honored by that lot. RockRaven Nov 2025 #68

I am disgusted with our leadership Scubamatt Nov 2025 #23

DACO LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #30

I'd forgotten about that "dry powder" bullshit. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2025 #65

Because they aren't all at fault creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #137

They are laughing their asses off. Emile Nov 2025 #25

We didn't even get brakes on the illegal rescissions Arazi Nov 2025 #28

I see it this way. ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #33

Classi strawman argument Bobstandard Nov 2025 #40

I think this is a good assessment petronius Nov 2025 #41

Weak sauce. nt Bobstandard Nov 2025 #48

It validates the claim that the Dems own the shutdown pain Ruby the Liberal Nov 2025 #85

It's a bad assessment lakercub Nov 2025 #98

I wish I shared your optimism. Gimpyknee Nov 2025 #44

But what ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #45

Reagan was nothing compared to this fascist clown and his lemmings that control all branches of government. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #56

This is garbage - for starters Schumer couldn't lead a toddler to the shitter after this fiasco . . . hatrack Nov 2025 #59

I would ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #62

Toodles. hatrack Nov 2025 #63

No need ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #64

the GOP could have ended it on their own. This is absolute bullshit. Make them end the filibuster god damn it. Jbraybarten Nov 2025 #90

Great way to look at the situation. Katinfl Nov 2025 #92

A lot to disagree with here lakercub Nov 2025 #99

Totally agree, but we HAVE been demanding that they stand up LearnedHand Nov 2025 #106

100 percent lakercub Nov 2025 #111

Yep, fascism won and they even poured cold water on Tuesdays victories, we are back to zero as in zero hope. nt yaesu Nov 2025 #42

I was proud to be a Democrat again for all of four days. That's over with as of today. flashman13 Nov 2025 #43

I wonder what the energy is going to be like for the Next No Kings Protest SunImp Nov 2025 #47

Cried "Uncle". BurnDoubt Nov 2025 #49

It is not acceptable that he keeps winning. Queso Delicioso Nov 2025 #50

And what do the low info white male voters see? FHRRK Nov 2025 #71

People ought to ask themselves which constituents each Senator is serving. RockRaven Nov 2025 #51

Dick Durbin's constituents are getting tear gassed in their neighborhoods Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #52

They wanted that last batch of donor money. They're probably going to leave. Durbin is retiring. Had nothing to lose. ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #54

The Democrats who voted for this... flying-skeleton Nov 2025 #55

The fact that two retiring Dems voted for it tells you that a lot more supported it Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #58

This analysis also exposes the falsity of the argument some have made that Schumer RockRaven Nov 2025 #67

Exactly right: this is a choreographed vote - Yeas and Nays on the Dem side negotiated with Leadership Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #70

My guess is Schumer orchestrated it, he knows how to count votes, and cover his own ass. dem4decades Nov 2025 #104

We were riding high after the Tuesday elections and now this. Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #57

Can't blame them fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #78

We've been on our own for over 40 years...republicans will mock us Bread and Circuses Nov 2025 #60

Get the hats out PlanetPolitics Nov 2025 #61

Agreed! Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #75

This is why we DON'T GIVE IN TO TERRORISTS! Sparkly Nov 2025 #69

And they *still* can't figure out why people are leaving the party in droves? LearnedHand Nov 2025 #72

I have more than a few friends that berksdem Nov 2025 #95

Shut down ms.pamela Nov 2025 #74

Dems were playing pinochle C_U_L8R Nov 2025 #76

No. ._. Nov 2025 #79

Traitors need to be primaried flying-skeleton Nov 2025 #80

Oh, it was arranged such that nobody is up next year Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #81

They fight to win for their voters RandiFan1290 Nov 2025 #82

No he didn't. If anything, he really, really, really lost. We saw him demolishing the people's house for his Vinca Nov 2025 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #93

If the government isn't open, you can't take a vote. Stay in shutdown and the GOP is happy as a clam because Vinca Nov 2025 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 2025 #113

Another thing to consider is that this funding is for such a short period of time, we could be right back in Vinca Nov 2025 #115

Yes. mr715 Nov 2025 #129

Sadly true! Denis 11 Nov 2025 #89

Absolutely David__77 Nov 2025 #94

I wonder what the next step should have been Hope22 Nov 2025 #96

I think when John Stewart asked Chris Hayes and David Plouffe after Tuesday's elections, Ol Janx Spirit Nov 2025 #100

No he did not. bucolic_frolic Nov 2025 #101

He is laughing his ass off at us! Emile Nov 2025 #103

He didn't win Bettie Nov 2025 #105

Fair point! Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #109

Fkd by the back stabbing caucus Fullduplexxx Nov 2025 #114

Who "won" the shutdown remains to be seen. Redleg Nov 2025 #116

Claim victory. Thats what THEY do all the time. WE DID IT! Callie1979 Nov 2025 #119

Trump won the battle happy feet Nov 2025 #120

Yup ! republianmushroom Nov 2025 #121

They were always going to "win". They are the party in charge of ALL THREE branches of government (and the courts)... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #125

Why must Democrats insist on padding Republican whip counts? nt mr715 Nov 2025 #130

They live in the real world and they understand the nature of politics... QueerDuck Nov 2025 #131

But not really, right? mr715 Nov 2025 #132

Thanks for your thoughtful and well-reasoned response. QueerDuck Nov 2025 #133

Eight traitors Duncanpup Nov 2025 #126

Welcome to the no spin zone, lol. BootinUp Nov 2025 #127

I really think GAtomboy Nov 2025 #128

Not all Dems creeksneakers2 Nov 2025 #134

they own it weissmam Nov 2025 #139

I wish we could give them the middle finger YoshidaYui Nov 2025 #140

Yup Abstractartist Nov 2025 #145

The Dems may have blinked, but they had more concern for the old, young, ill, hungry. and non wealthy. Fla Dem Nov 2025 #146