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In reply to the discussion: So what was the point? [View all]
Nanjeanne
(6,537 posts)9. There wasn't any it appears. I thought there was since it excited and encouraged so many people
to vote and rid many places of R control — but appears the message is “we tried but people need to get to their Thanksgiving holiday places”.
My bigger question is - on Jan 30 when the same thing happens again - why bother shutting the government down? There’s no election momentum. The Ds cant go back to the subsidy well again since by Jan 30 the ACA will be dead. So nothing gained and another win for the Rs.
My biggest question though is - why do Dems give Rs anything? Why do they reward their narrative. And why do a handful of useless idiots have the power to go against the big Dem majority?
And the last question I have I am taking from Hamilton…and Lin Manuel
If you stand for nothing, Burr, what will you fall for?
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I think it was a good analogy, but I truly understand & respect your dissenting opinion.
Celerity
Nov 2025
#70
You think any of those that voted for this would have been swayed by a passionate speech from Booker?
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#31
Would he? And if he did, would he be voted in as minority leader to begin with?
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#40
Worked for Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. I'm not sure why we're even too afraid to do that?
Arazi
Nov 2025
#42
Is there any precedent in the modern Senate for such high profile sanctions against a large group of members?
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#56
A Senate leader who tried to strip the committee assignments of 8 senators for this vote would not last long.
tritsofme
Nov 2025
#60
I like most of Bernie's ideas and policy plans, but he has never been effective at getting things passed
Attilatheblond
Nov 2025
#57
And that was my point. Maybe it's time to put some fan favorites in power and let's see them do better.
W_HAMILTON
Nov 2025
#64
I agree. Bernie has his strengths. What people need to remember - being an effective leader requires
yellow dahlia
Nov 2025
#79
This absolutely smells. Conveniently 8 senators who aren't running again cave.
CentralMass
Nov 2025
#76
Republicans would never pass single payer health care. Hell they don't care if people DIE
Bengus81
Nov 2025
#38
Curious to see how many of the 8 get well paid pretend jobs on Airline boards of directors.
Attilatheblond
Nov 2025
#59
There wasn't any it appears. I thought there was since it excited and encouraged so many people
Nanjeanne
Nov 2025
#9
No, the point was to prevent an estimated 50,000 people from dying due to the lack of affordable health insurance
indusurb
Nov 2025
#35
They opted for the option that will kill an estimated 50,000 people annually due to sky high premiums
indusurb
Nov 2025
#48
From a long range strategic perspective, for reasons too numerous to go into here, I don't think it was all that
Fil1957
Nov 2025
#52
Remember their names, write them down somewhere with your 'important papers'
Attilatheblond
Nov 2025
#55
So they opted for more real pain in the form ofskyrocketing insurance premiums,
indusurb
Nov 2025
#67