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bucolic_frolic

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101. No he did not.

Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:23 AM

Nov 10

He remains responsible for the shutdown, and Republicans are on the hot seat for ACA going forward. Democrats prevented Thanksgiving travel chaos and restored SNAP, and escaped blame for the shutdown which was about to bite. Let's see if Republicans have learned anything.

Stop beating up on Democrats.

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Trump Won the Shutdown [View all] Prairie Gates Nov 2025 OP

Again. Squaredeal Nov 2025 #1

So now they know deprivation is a weapon leftstreet Nov 2025 #2

Gives a whole new meaning to "We are the Ones We're Waiting For." Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #4

He was using all the Americans as hostages. And he was threatening to kill them all yellow dahlia Nov 2025 #22

Abd they will use it time and slightlv Nov 2025 #32

THIS officially marks popsdenver Nov 10 #124

We had so much enthusiasm & positive energy. CrispyQ Nov 2025 #3

Well. Why protest? Our leaders slightlv Nov 2025 #34

It was eight people creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #135

It was an engineered vote. CentralMass Nov 10 #138

Where is your evidence? creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #144

It wasn't eight people LR3 Nov 10 #141

Where is your evidence? creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #143

Agreed! jcmaine72 Nov 10 #87

Agree, why protest ? republianmushroom Nov 10 #123

Not really....................... Lovie777 Nov 2025 #5

I agree but what would you have them do? berkerly6240 Nov 2025 #6

Fuck off orangecrush Nov 2025 #7

Post removed Post removed Nov 2025 #21

"What would you have THEM do?" Lancero Nov 2025 #24

I wasn't telling you to fuck off orangecrush Nov 2025 #27

Also the word bitch orangecrush Nov 2025 #29

If they were going to cave, then why hold out this long? hamsterjill Nov 2025 #9

It was a mistake to let the government shut down at all gulliver Nov 10 #97

Agreed mostly. hamsterjill Nov 10 #102

It was an uphill battle unfortunately gulliver Nov 10 #108

I absolutely hope that YOU are correct. hamsterjill Nov 10 #110

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #117

I'm funny to you? gulliver Nov 10 #122

Start by making the ACA/healthcare non-negotiable. tinrobot Nov 2025 #12

It's the only thing that they were holding out for... Hugin Nov 2025 #14

And they chose to give Bettie Nov 10 #107

They should have held the line, and dug in deeper. Repug voters have not felt enough pain yet. Hotler Nov 10 #88

Hold the line quakerboy Nov 10 #118

Obamacare a gone Johnny2X2X Nov 2025 #8

I'm one of those. I'm beyond furious and into despair Arazi Nov 2025 #15

Peculiar that the Trump admin undid the Biden rule against reporting medical debt on peoples credit scores. ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #66

Peculiar? BWdem4life Nov 10 #73

More property for them to buy! Vance and Thiel are more than ready to sell all our land travelingthrulife Nov 10 #91

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2025 #18

Democrats will deserve it. They've been holding donor interest LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #20

Really? All Democrats? You think I'm responsible? Bobstandard Nov 2025 #35

Fine they should get what they deserve vercetti2021 Nov 2025 #36

4d chess. Republicans refuse to pass the ACA extensions, and we can blame them... Lancero Nov 2025 #26

No Jon Stewart was right Bobstandard Nov 2025 #37

It's not millions of Americans angrychair Nov 2025 #31

Yes, the republicans pitted federal workers against SNAP recipients vs those benefiting from the ACA fujiyamasan Nov 2025 #46

What happened is that the private jet donor class set was about to be inconvenienced by the real world repercussions of. Hugin Nov 2025 #10

This is the correct answer. The donors were about to be inconvenienced by airport shutdowns. They forced Dems to cave. LonePirate Nov 2025 #53

This right here fujiyamasan Nov 10 #77

It wasn't the leadership that caved. creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #136

Hear Hear! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Nov 10 #83

You nailed it Ruby the Liberal Nov 10 #84

He also said No Compromise ... and eliminate the filibuster dweller Nov 2025 #11

I hate trump with a fiery passion EnergizedLib Nov 2025 #13

Fortitude appears to be in short supply Bobstandard Nov 2025 #38

Such incredible weakness by the leaders of the Democratic Party ..... Escape Nov 2025 #16

Isn't AOC after his senate seat in 2028? ClaudetteCC Nov 2025 #17

She'd win in a landslide LR3 Nov 10 #142

Trump won the shutdown venusgirl Nov 2025 #19

You do have to think the caving Senators have made special deals Bobstandard Nov 2025 #39

Then they are fools. No deals are honored by that lot. RockRaven Nov 2025 #68

I am disgusted with our leadership Scubamatt Nov 2025 #23

DACO LuvLoogie Nov 2025 #30

I'd forgotten about that "dry powder" bullshit. FoxNewsSucks Nov 2025 #65

Because they aren't all at fault creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #137

They are laughing their asses off. Emile Nov 2025 #25

We didn't even get brakes on the illegal rescissions Arazi Nov 2025 #28

I see it this way. ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #33

Classi strawman argument Bobstandard Nov 2025 #40

I think this is a good assessment petronius Nov 2025 #41

Weak sauce. nt Bobstandard Nov 2025 #48

It validates the claim that the Dems own the shutdown pain Ruby the Liberal Nov 10 #85

It's a bad assessment lakercub Nov 10 #98

I wish I shared your optimism. Gimpyknee Nov 2025 #44

But what ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #45

Reagan was nothing compared to this fascist clown and his lemmings that control all branches of government. ForgoTheConsequence Nov 2025 #56

This is garbage - for starters Schumer couldn't lead a toddler to the shitter after this fiasco . . . hatrack Nov 2025 #59

I would ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #62

Toodles. hatrack Nov 2025 #63

No need ForgedCrank Nov 2025 #64

the GOP could have ended it on their own. This is absolute bullshit. Make them end the filibuster god damn it. Jbraybarten Nov 10 #90

Great way to look at the situation. Katinfl Nov 10 #92

A lot to disagree with here lakercub Nov 10 #99

Totally agree, but we HAVE been demanding that they stand up LearnedHand Nov 10 #106

100 percent lakercub Nov 10 #111

Yep, fascism won and they even poured cold water on Tuesdays victories, we are back to zero as in zero hope. nt yaesu Nov 2025 #42

I was proud to be a Democrat again for all of four days. That's over with as of today. flashman13 Nov 2025 #43

I wonder what the energy is going to be like for the Next No Kings Protest SunImp Nov 2025 #47

Cried "Uncle". BurnDoubt Nov 2025 #49

It is not acceptable that he keeps winning. Queso Delicioso Nov 2025 #50

And what do the low info white male voters see? FHRRK Nov 2025 #71

People ought to ask themselves which constituents each Senator is serving. RockRaven Nov 2025 #51

Dick Durbin's constituents are getting tear gassed in their neighborhoods Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #52

They wanted that last batch of donor money. They're probably going to leave. Durbin is retiring. Had nothing to lose. ChicagoTeamster Nov 2025 #54

The Democrats who voted for this... flying-skeleton Nov 2025 #55

The fact that two retiring Dems voted for it tells you that a lot more supported it Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #58

This analysis also exposes the falsity of the argument some have made that Schumer RockRaven Nov 2025 #67

Exactly right: this is a choreographed vote - Yeas and Nays on the Dem side negotiated with Leadership Prairie Gates Nov 2025 #70

My guess is Schumer orchestrated it, he knows how to count votes, and cover his own ass. dem4decades Nov 10 #104

We were riding high after the Tuesday elections and now this. Grim Chieftain Nov 2025 #57

Can't blame them fujiyamasan Nov 10 #78

We've been on our own for over 40 years...republicans will mock us Bread and Circuses Nov 2025 #60

Get the hats out PlanetPolitics Nov 2025 #61

Agreed! Grim Chieftain Nov 10 #75

This is why we DON'T GIVE IN TO TERRORISTS! Sparkly Nov 2025 #69

And they *still* can't figure out why people are leaving the party in droves? LearnedHand Nov 2025 #72

I have more than a few friends that berksdem Nov 10 #95

Shut down ms.pamela Nov 10 #74

Dems were playing pinochle C_U_L8R Nov 10 #76

No. ._. Nov 10 #79

Traitors need to be primaried flying-skeleton Nov 10 #80

Oh, it was arranged such that nobody is up next year Prairie Gates Nov 10 #81

They fight to win for their voters RandiFan1290 Nov 10 #82

No he didn't. If anything, he really, really, really lost. We saw him demolishing the people's house for his Vinca Nov 10 #86

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #93

If the government isn't open, you can't take a vote. Stay in shutdown and the GOP is happy as a clam because Vinca Nov 10 #112

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 10 #113

Another thing to consider is that this funding is for such a short period of time, we could be right back in Vinca Nov 10 #115

Yes. mr715 Nov 10 #129

Sadly true! Denis 11 Nov 10 #89

Absolutely David__77 Nov 10 #94

I wonder what the next step should have been Hope22 Nov 10 #96

I think when John Stewart asked Chris Hayes and David Plouffe after Tuesday's elections, Ol Janx Spirit Nov 10 #100

No he did not. bucolic_frolic Nov 10 #101

He is laughing his ass off at us! Emile Nov 10 #103

He didn't win Bettie Nov 10 #105

Fair point! Prairie Gates Nov 10 #109

Fkd by the back stabbing caucus Fullduplexxx Nov 10 #114

Who "won" the shutdown remains to be seen. Redleg Nov 10 #116

Claim victory. Thats what THEY do all the time. WE DID IT! Callie1979 Nov 10 #119

Trump won the battle happy feet Nov 10 #120

Yup ! republianmushroom Nov 10 #121

They were always going to "win". They are the party in charge of ALL THREE branches of government (and the courts)... QueerDuck Nov 10 #125

Why must Democrats insist on padding Republican whip counts? nt mr715 Nov 10 #130

They live in the real world and they understand the nature of politics... QueerDuck Nov 10 #131

But not really, right? mr715 Nov 10 #132

Thanks for your thoughtful and well-reasoned response. QueerDuck Nov 10 #133

Eight traitors Duncanpup Nov 10 #126

Welcome to the no spin zone, lol. BootinUp Nov 10 #127

I really think GAtomboy Nov 10 #128

Not all Dems creeksneakers2 Nov 10 #134

they own it weissmam Nov 10 #139

I wish we could give them the middle finger YoshidaYui Nov 10 #140

Yup Abstractartist Nov 10 #145

The Dems may have blinked, but they had more concern for the old, young, ill, hungry. and non wealthy. Fla Dem Nov 10 #146