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eppur_se_muova

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17. To split hairs, natural homones were *extracted* from livestock urine, ovaries/testes etc. where they were present.
Mon Nov 10, 2025, 11:23 PM
Nov 2025

Yam and soy steroids had to be subjected to ingenious chemical modifications to have the same molecular structure as the natural hormones; for commercial success, they needed to be available in quantity, and isolated fairly efficiently, both of which required considerable ingenuity, as well as considerable patience with trial-and-error results.

Chemically, there is no distinction between these particular synthetic hormones and those from natural sources (not true of all steroids in use, by any means).

For the synthesis from steroids found in yams, read up on Russel Marker: https://www.acs.org/education/whatischemistry/landmarks/progesteronesynthesis.html

For soy steroids, see the work of Percy Julian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Lavon_Julian

PBS has shown docs on both men and their work. They were working on similar projects at about the same time, but that often happens in science, as new discoveries lead to whole new fields of study, which lead to new discoveries. "Success" wasn't a one-time thing either, so "who was first" is kind of a fuzzy question -- or at least a question with a fuzzy answer.

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He's delirious again. Dave Bowman Nov 2025 #1
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OMG!!!!!! a kennedy Nov 2025 #6
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I have actually sat and cried over the injustice done to your generation of women, Maru Kitteh Nov 2025 #11
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OTC bioidentical hormone creams are cosmetic ONLY, and will not raise systemic levels Maru Kitteh Nov 2025 #18
Bio-identical hormones are available now womanofthehills Nov 2025 #8
To split hairs, natural homones were *extracted* from livestock urine, ovaries/testes etc. where they were present. eppur_se_muova Nov 2025 #17
There was a study some fifty years ago that found that HRT increased the risk of breast cancer iemanja Nov 2025 #12
I know, back in the day, my female PA told me, nope, ya can only have these for the next year and then it's over. a kennedy Nov 2025 #13
What else biological hormones help with womanofthehills Nov 2025 #15
Shut up. No, sorry, when I say that it's like back in the day when it was popular......but damn. a kennedy Nov 2025 #16
Go for the patch! It's safer than oral estrogen and SO EASY to do. Changed my life. Maru Kitteh Nov 2025 #19
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