General Discussion

My point was that Obama has expanded a lot of what Bush did and yet even though everyone did and would complain about it when Bush did it, a lot of people are defending Obama constantly when he is doing those same things. Did you really think I said that Obama ran against Bush? I doubt it.

I never said I spoke for everyone. This is a message board where people voice their opinions. Talking about speaking for everyone... where did I make the claims you listed? And if you are going to use the term "Obama trashers" shall I use the term "Obamabots"? Again, if you want a discussion, you have to curb that kind of talk and also speak to the issues.

As to your last paragraph you couldn't be more wrong with this statement:
" "On the table" is just the president's detractors way of being outraged just for the sake of outrage."
Whether you want to admit it or not, Obama put SS on the table. It is a fact. He offered it up at the Republicans' request and Jay Carney said so at a press briefing. So you can deny it but that doesn't mean it's not true.

I'm glad you are concerned with unemployment. I am as well. Both are a travesty. And one should not be offered up to save the other. PBO has the leverage and has sanity on his side. For him to put SS on the table is a HUGE mistake and something NO DEM should EVER do. It used to be unthinkable until Obama. And there was no reason to bring SS into this negotiation. It pays for itself and doesn't contribute to the national debt or deficit in any way.

Anyway, see? We agree on something. Unemployment should not be suddenly stopped. But SS should not be put on the table either.

Oh, and btw... you STILL haven't answered my questions about how any of those things on my list were being on the people's side. Perhaps that's why you tried to change it to something about Bush running against Obama which I never said.

So, can you answer me? How are all those things being on the people's side? If you're going to call anyone who criticized Obama an "Obama trasher" then prove it. Show me how all those things he does are defensible. Defend them. If you can't then you should apologize for using that term and admit that there are things he needs to be criticized for and that he should be held accountable, just like any other president. If we don't criticize and let him know, he won't get better.