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Cirsium

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72. Huh?

Sun Dec 7, 2025, 02:37 PM

Dec 7

A phrase doesn't qualify as a slogan unless it is repeated every time the person talks to the press?

About the slogan Jeffries himself said “that’s what we believe in as Democrats.”

The slogan comes from a book title that promotes the usual "third way" drivel. Blurb from the "strong floor no ceiling" website: "a radically moderate plan that combines the best ideas from left and right to rebuild opportunity for every citizen." It is worse than just a bad slogan.

You suggest that the author and people here are cherry picking one remark and misrepresenting Jeffries.

Yet you are misrepresenting the author's main point. Here are excerpts that are representative.

"Anyone who thinks the problem is that America isn’t properly nurturing everyone’s thirst for entrepreneurialism has been spending too much time talking to wealthy donors."

"The slogan is emblematic of an approach the party’s leadership always seems to take. They’re so afraid they might offend someone they decline to call out genuine villains."

You may think that third way politics is the best course for the Democrats to take, or perhaps you support third way politics whether or not is the best course for electoral success by the Democrats. Others oppose third way politics and think third way politics is is not a good electoral strategy. Argue your case on its merits rather than attacking people.

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Why Hakeem Jeffries' new slogan for the Democratic Party is so ineffective [View all] LiberalArkie Dec 7 OP

LOL n/t leftstreet Dec 7 #1

I like it Blues Heron Dec 7 #2

Democrats badgolfer Dec 7 #3

Kinda lame. Jeffries needs to hire a good ad agency that can come up with something Ocelot II Dec 7 #4

Yeah, they need o spend some money and do it right NotHardly Dec 7 #31

The probably used an old trusted consultant Bobstandard Dec 7 #77

Exactly. We don't need ANY slogans. We need real plans and real commitments. Bluetus Dec 7 #105

What in the does it even mean? I think is dumb but that is this ol gals opinion. Trueblue1968 Dec 7 #97

Meh; a softball for rightwing mockery Chasstev365 Dec 7 #5

Free car, no brakes. Maru Kitteh Dec 7 #107

If you play fantasy sports (Fantasy Football for example), you definitely don't need it explained AZJonnie Dec 7 #6

Yep, I agree padfun Dec 7 #27

It immediately clicked with me True Dough Dec 7 #52

See, I didn't know that Blue_playwright Dec 7 #55

I'd agree with that but if that's the intention, they should own it, don't be coy. Maru Kitteh Dec 7 #109

Okay I'll ask my hubby who is into fantasy sports senseandsensibility Dec 7 #60

Well it's a hell of a lot better than Autumn Dec 7 #7

Here's what I remember: "Strong floor, _____ ceiling." and it has NOTHING TO DO WITH ME. Tetrachloride Dec 7 #8

"Tax rich, then money to buy nice ceiling!"--Confucious RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Dec 7 #9

EGAD! jaymac Dec 7 #10

It's the title of a book, by a venture capitalist leftstreet Dec 7 #11

So, the rich get richer Bettie Dec 7 #19

+1 leftstreet Dec 7 #25

"The secret is that the floor for the ultra wealthy is our ceiling and we're buried under it." Solly Mack Dec 7 #41

The LAST thing we need James48 Dec 7 #34

It costs lots of money to have "access to education, healthcare, homes, jobs, capital, and justice" KS Toronado Dec 7 #69

Absolutely hate this description angrychair Dec 7 #85

How can something be radically moderate? Mossfern Dec 7 #106

Exactly Mossfern angrychair Dec 7 #110

In other words...no ceiling to the TechBros money-grabbing. Got it. travelingthrulife Dec 8 #113

do people ever tire of these nobodies who make money tearing down our Democratic leaders? bigtree Dec 7 #12

He is really blah..... Historic NY Dec 7 #13

Huh ... dweller Dec 7 #14

this is bullshit. This isn't Jeffries's new slogan. It's one thing he said bigtree Dec 7 #15

Actually, he started saying it back in August leftstreet Dec 7 #16

he's said much more than that one thing bigtree Dec 7 #30

Whining that Democrats don't talk about the economy, when they do, insinuations they're corrupt capitalists. betsuni Dec 7 #32

So what? Cirsium Dec 7 #35

the author claime that it's a 'new slogan for the Democratic party" bigtree Dec 7 #38

Huh? Cirsium Dec 7 #72

the author succeeded in rallying his readers against President Biden bigtree Dec 7 #89

OK Cirsium Dec 7 #94

Are you sure? Cirsium Dec 7 #33

....if you bother to listen to any appearance of his, he has many 'slogans' bigtree Dec 7 #45

Agreed Cirsium Dec 7 #65

Sure stirred up the crowd, didn't it Nittersing Dec 7 #73

Jefferies was **NEVER** said he was the hype man, we shouldn't expect it either. uponit7771 Dec 7 #17

Ugh NewHendoLib Dec 7 #18

Article's author is really really mad at Jeffries for not explaining the U.S. economy and politics in four words. betsuni Dec 7 #20

It is a fabulous slogan from the powerful communications perspective LearnedHand Dec 7 #61

Sounds like a tornado hit. milestogo Dec 7 #21

We need fire breathers and fighters, not mush mouths who praise Trump's policies Mysterian Dec 7 #22

Is "Catchy" out of vogue these days? DFW Dec 7 #23

I have a better one: MAKE LYING WRONG AGAIN! Nictuku Dec 7 #24

Jebus, that's weak. Traildogbob Dec 7 #26

Sounds like a decent fantasy running back facing the Bengals. Iggo Dec 7 #28

As a corporate Democrat, the one thing that the really wealthy do not want to have happen is change. LiberalArkie Dec 7 #29

this author is just trying to stir shit about Mamdani. bigtree Dec 7 #36

I think you're confused and mean MAGAts when you say Democrats MorbidButterflyTat Dec 7 #48

OMG, please tell me he's joking. Democrats will be KPN Dec 7 #37

Referring to his securities portfolio, maybe? flvegan Dec 7 #39

"Fuck up the MAGAts" would be mine Aviation Pro Dec 7 #40

Where's the beef? yaesu Dec 7 #42

Post removed Post removed Dec 7 #43

Welcome to DU, MarineCombatEngineer Dec 7 #47

Here we go again MorbidButterflyTat Dec 7 #44

The Mystery of What Democrats Stand For. Voters have no idea, but they sure don't like it. WUT. betsuni Dec 7 #64

So That's Why Dems Won All Those Election's Cha Dec 7 #84

Yes, don't fall for garbage! Think for yourselves! Listen. betsuni Dec 7 #99

Thank You! It really is Cha Dec 7 #102

Everyone dropping their little offering into the insult collection basket at the Church of Dem Bashing. betsuni Dec 7 #103

It's heartbreaking, and frustrating. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 8 #117

I think of the old joke about the guy who goes hunting with an "I am not a bear" sign on his back betsuni Dec 8 #123

And there are SO MANY threads just like it. MorbidButterflyTat Dec 8 #115

From August 2025, Hakeem Jeffries talks about "Strong floor, no ceiling." Link below. Solly Mack Dec 7 #46

Oh, you mean it was more than a cherry picked sound bite used to bash the Democratic House minority leader??? MorbidButterflyTat Dec 7 #50

The link shows what Jeffries meant when he used the phrase. That's why I posted it. Solly Mack Dec 7 #63

I appreciate your post that proves the OP is BS MorbidButterflyTat Dec 8 #114

doesn't sound like what the author above was bleating about, at all. bigtree Dec 7 #58

I posted it to show what he meant when he used the phrase. Solly Mack Dec 7 #62

I get that bigtree Dec 7 #91

Thanks for context fujiyamasan Dec 7 #82

Sounds more like a talking point to build off than a "slogan" to me. Solly Mack Dec 7 #88

That would be a Brilliant OP... because Cha Dec 7 #104

Michael Jordan - "The ceiling is the roof" fargone Dec 7 #49

I would prefer..... Escape Dec 7 #51

I'm a marketing professional Blue_playwright Dec 7 #53

I'm not and it's terrible. moonscape Dec 7 #80

Once upon a time, the Democrats had a brand: The Party That Looks Out For The Little Guy JHB Dec 7 #54

It is too static and passive. LudwigPastorius Dec 7 #56

"No ceiling" sure sounds like a dogwhistle to the billionaires? LearnedHand Dec 7 #57

Although I don't love it senseandsensibility Dec 7 #59

This slogan lacks any emotional appeal and requires too much thinking. Duncan Grant Dec 7 #66

It needs to be a verb. C_U_L8R Dec 7 #67

SIGH... GiqueCee Dec 7 #68

Jeffries and Schumer need to be replaced pinkstarburst Dec 7 #70

WTF????? Why do we need a slogan?????? Katinfl Dec 7 #71

It's too easy to shoot holes in this... appmanga Dec 7 #74

I like it as a sentiment. But slogans need to be more intuitive. markodochartaigh Dec 7 #75

who said it was a 'slogan for the party? bigtree Dec 7 #92

Sounds empty TheFarseer Dec 7 #76

The article is BS. Jeffries was asked what Dems believe in. Raven123 Dec 7 #78

Okay Progressive dog Dec 7 #79

... littlemissmartypants Dec 7 #81

Who says it's some official slogan ? JI7 Dec 7 #83

One guy. All the whining about leadership, people mindlessly follow anyone as long as they hate Democrats. betsuni Dec 7 #96

he has a slogan? ... oh, i see. well, it kinda sucks. try again nt orleans Dec 7 #86

Gosh. Kid Berwyn Dec 7 #87

"Strong floor, no ceiling" Abolishinist Dec 7 #90

(yawn) Conjuay Dec 7 #93

Let me guess. It was worked up by the consultant class. yellow dahlia Dec 7 #95

... mcar Dec 7 #98

The new slogan is confusing MustLoveBeagles Dec 7 #100

Pretty Lame n/t Timewas Dec 7 #101

"FEED THE POOR, AND TAX THE RICH"! Jack Valentino Dec 7 #108

I thought the messaging was affordability Ruby the Liberal Dec 8 #111

What the Rebl2 Dec 8 #112

The Jokes About Hurricanes Write Themselves, Don't They? ..... ColoringFool Dec 8 #116

Seems 'a slogan' rather than 'THE slogan' Torchlight Dec 8 #118

Huh? dwayneb Dec 8 #119

Our country is imploding, and this is what D leadership is working on..... Tbone421 Dec 8 #120

THIS IS NOT JEFFRIES SLOGAN FFS!!!! Nittersing Dec 8 #121

So some guy has a beef with Jeffries, pretends that something Jeffries says is an "official slogan", so that he can... FascismIsDeath Dec 8 #122