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moniss

(8,945 posts)
4. Right around the time of the overturn of Roe I suggested
Mon Dec 8, 2025, 04:46 PM
Dec 8

that because pregnancy can permanently damage the health of or kill a woman that sperm should be looked at as a potential hazard and much greater responsibility/liability be placed on the source of that sperm. Yes in a consensual situation it takes two to tango but the results of a pregnancy, good or bad, have never been shared 50/50 and that has needed to change for a very long, long time. As part of that change one thought I felt needed to be implemented is that if a woman was misled into a sexual relationship by a man and subsequently became pregnant that a penalty be imposed for using fraud and placing her in a hazardous position that she would have avoided had the man been truthful.

In other words men would have to be responsible for their sperm in more ways than just paternity/child support. The current system, as a result of years of women having no rights, has given us the current situation where the hazardous effects of pregnancy are largely and completely on the shoulders of the woman despite that pregnancy requiring an equal interaction. Allowing men off the hook for the full measure of their responsibility/liability has more or less been codified in the society and we all know that society at large and legally still says the woman "got pregnant" and places the Scarlet P so to speak while making no requirement of the man the sperm came from except child support.

One thing I suggested is that when the woman has to go for doctor visits that the man the sperm came from must go as well. Equal responsibility. I went even further and suggested that if the woman suffers morning sickness then the man the sperm came from should be made to have induced nausea. I know that sounds extreme to some but why is it only the woman who should experience all of these things when it was supposedly "two to tango"? In other words just because the "dance" ended doesn't mean the woman should pay nearly all of the bill for the band.

Perhaps if we did these things men would look at the release of their sperm as having consequences beyond writing a check. Certainly women can and do face consequences way beyond potentially giving birth and raising the child.

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They are also trying to take away women's right to vote... CousinIT Dec 8 #1
I've been yelling about this for years... slightlv Dec 8 #2
Right around the time of the overturn of Roe I suggested moniss Dec 8 #4
I went further than you did in your options... slightlv Dec 8 #11
Right. Scott Alan Swaggerty Dec 10 #23
Recommended. H2O Man Dec 8 #3
Good Beatles reference and good advice. nt moniss Dec 8 #5
I had just H2O Man Dec 8 #7
A MUST READ OP malaise Dec 8 #6
Yet, luckily they have done it all in the dumbest way possible with the dumbest people they could have... Ol Janx Spirit Dec 8 #8
How monumentally stupid is it to cut your own nose off your face slightlv Dec 8 #12
Racism is a helluva drug LymphocyteLover Dec 9 #18
True Scott Alan Swaggerty Dec 10 #24
Great Description Of How Low We Have Sunk FrankTC Dec 8 #9
Freedom is nothing left to lose. Dan Dec 8 #10
Well, Dan... between the medical bills this month slightlv Dec 8 #13
Or if they did here, they quietly agreed with you 😃 Clouds Passing Dec 9 #15
K&R Solly Mack Dec 8 #14
We are witnessing the extremes corporations and billionaires are willing to go to dlk Dec 9 #16
it's a race between the clearly demon's declining health and them getting all the shit they want done. They are so LymphocyteLover Dec 9 #17
On election night, when the outcome was increasingly clear, Alice B. Dec 9 #19
The real Anti-Anericans... purr-rat beauty Dec 9 #20
Absolutely! Scott Alan Swaggerty Dec 10 #25
Land Of The Free gfarber Dec 9 #21
K&R Scott Alan Swaggerty Dec 10 #22
Un doing this will take decades. yourout Dec 10 #26
Maga constantly blames Biden. They should be reminded. Walleye Dec 10 #27
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