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Bluetus

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16. Apparently Z and Witkoff meet today

Reply to Emrys (Reply #15)

Sun Dec 14, 2025, 10:43 AM

Dec 2025

Is that timing coincidental, or is Trump trying to rush in and make himself relevant again?

https://www.politico.eu/article/ukrainian-president-volodymyr-zelenskyy-us-envoys-in-berlin-peace-talks/

“The summit in Berlin is important: we are meeting with both the Americans and the Europeans,” Zelenskyy told journalists.

Notice that Z is not including the US in the talks with the Europeans. Basically, Trump has no standing now. He has tried to screw Ukraine and Europe from the very outset. They are working around Trump now. And we have Trump on the outside looking in, screaming "I want to play too."

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Call transcript shows EU leaders tell Zelensky that they, not US, will decide on frozen Russian assets [View all] Amaryllis Dec 2025 OP

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA justaprogressive Dec 2025 #1

Oh, I LOVE hearing (reading this)... Step up and slap Trump down, EU! (and NATO) hlthe2b Dec 2025 #2

Let's hope this story is true Fiendish Thingy Dec 2025 #3

"the assets are needed to secure a peace deal between Russia and Ukraine" Emrys Dec 2025 #4

Trump is on a major losing streak. You would think at some point Bluetus Dec 2025 #13

We'll see whether the EU putting the Russian assets held on its territory out of his reach Emrys Dec 2025 #15

Apparently Z and Witkoff meet today Bluetus Dec 2025 #16

There were a series of summits planned for this week, Emrys Dec 2025 #17

The assets are needed to secure peace. When the Ukranians finally kick the Russian's ass there will be peace. flashman13 Dec 2025 #5

LBN post on the topic: littlemissmartypants Dec 2025 #6

As long as the Orange Hellbeast... GiqueCee Dec 2025 #7

Well said Alice Kramden Dec 2025 #8

You Mean To Say The King Of The World Isn't The Final Arbiter Here?! .... ColoringFool Dec 2025 #9

The headline says they WILL decide. The content of the article puts it another way..... LiberalLovinLug Dec 2025 #10

WHy does the US have any say at all? Unless they are making US aid conditional on having a say... Amaryllis Dec 2025 #11

What US aid? n/t Emrys Dec 2025 #12

What is that worth? Trump has been doing everything in his power to sabotage Ukraine. Bluetus Dec 2025 #14