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artemisia1

(1,597 posts) Mon Dec 22, 2025, 06:37 PM Dec 22

Battleships were largely obsolescent by the beginning of WW2. The new "Trump Class" ships, if actually built will [View all]

be drone and missile magnets. With crews of 1500-3000 sailors, the loss of life will be catastrophic if sunk in the Taiwan Strait by China. Just putting aside the ego portion of wanting to build "the biggest ships, the greatest ships" and naming them, of course, after himself, Trump is risking the lives of thousands of U.S. sailors. Agree?

https://apnews.com/article/trump-navy-golden-fleet-battleship-0940368b39b19f03abe8689ebad08380

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Battleships were largely obsolescent by the beginning of WW2. The new "Trump Class" ships, if actually built will [View all] artemisia1 Dec 22 OP

Think battleships are obsolete too, mostly good for bullying foreign nations by putting them offshore. I do think Silent Type Dec 22 #1

When the ship pummels the shore with shells, will that be a Trump Golden Shower? TheBlackAdder Dec 22 #31

They're not battleships, they're frigates. bluedigger Dec 22 #2

You might be confusing the new proposed frigate with this one Kaleva Dec 22 #5

Perhaps so, and I still believe none of it. bluedigger Dec 22 #10

It's the DDGX program guided missile fleet upgrade NickB79 Dec 22 #15

This will replace the proposed DDG(X) program Kaleva Dec 22 #33

Trump's battleship is absurd and will never happen. Just comic relief. thought crime Dec 23 #41

The FF(X) program looks promising Kaleva Dec 23 #42

Yes, it does. thought crime Dec 24 #43

He's the co-designer. He's said they will be "the biggest". muriel_volestrangler Dec 22 #6

They're definitely not frigates jmowreader Dec 22 #19

History is about to repeat itself. Girard442 Dec 22 #3

battleships were made obsolete Dec. 7, 1941 nt msongs Dec 22 #4

The Vasamuseet is one of the great places to visit here in Stockholm. 💛💙🇸🇪 Celerity Dec 22 #28

What is being proposed is not really a battleship sarisataka Dec 22 #7

35,000 tons for "Trump" Class vs. 57,000 tons for the WW2 Iowa Class Battleships. You are right. Battlecruiser artemisia1 Dec 22 #11

And far short of the 70,000 tons Yamato and Musashi Japanese battleships, which were ACTUALLY Jack Valentino Dec 22 #24

So basically this class is a guided missile cruiser, Emile Dec 22 #8

Sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse 10 December 1941. When it was discovered that even battle ready artemisia1 Dec 22 #9

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Dec 22 #12

Extremely expensive and will take years to design. haele Dec 22 #13

Something else for the next reality-based President to have to cancel. Beartracks Dec 22 #27

After billions are wasted. /nt artemisia1 Dec 23 #38

Battleships were very useful in WWII SocialDemocrat61 Dec 22 #14

These Ships Aren't About Battle! They Will Be For 2 Things: ColoringFool Dec 22 #16

N. Korea built a battleship recently. It sank when they tried to launch it. n/t Jacson6 Dec 22 #17

It was a destroyer that NK tried to launch sarisataka Dec 22 #21

If they do build them then can we put him and his administration on them and send them to Caribbean waters? chowder66 Dec 22 #18

The US is not capable of building these ships AverageOldGuy Dec 22 #20

Make way for another G R I F T.... littlemissmartypants Dec 22 #22

The ship being proposed is not a "battleship" in the classic sense relayerbob Dec 22 #23

Trump's understanding of the term 'battleship' likely begins with 'a row-boat with shotguns' Jack Valentino Dec 22 #25

Agreed. /nt artemisia1 Dec 23 #35

It's ego and grift. Irish_Dem Dec 22 #26

I hope Trump lives long enough to see a aircraft oasis Dec 22 #29

Yes! YepYep Dec 22 #30

Trump Class in honor of Epstein. Turbineguy Dec 22 #32

To be fair the tRump class will be AI controlled making it unsinkable yaesu Dec 23 #34

...and it does not identify as being sunk. PCIntern Dec 23 #36

He doesn't care if they are obsolete. It's all about him, not the ship. OLDMDDEM Dec 23 #37

MaddowBlog-Trump names battleship class after himself, advancing his personalization crusade LetMyPeopleVote Dec 23 #39

get the net!!!! spanone Dec 23 #40

New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' -- and will never sail: expert LetMyPeopleVote Dec 26 #44