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In reply to the discussion: Battleships were largely obsolescent by the beginning of WW2. The new "Trump Class" ships, if actually built will [View all]AverageOldGuy
(4,132 posts)20. The US is not capable of building these ships
Read this article:
https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/why-cant-the-us-build-ships
For those of us worried about Americas ability to manufacture things, theres no shortage of worrying indicators to point to. Manufacturing employment has fallen by a third from its peak in 1979, even as the population has grown by nearly 50% over the same period. Storied manufacturing companies like Boeing and Intel are struggling. From machine tools to industrial robots to consumer electronics, the list of American industries where manufacturing capability has been hollowed out is long.
Another worrying indicator is shipbuilding capacity. Commercial shipbuilding in the U.S. is virtually nonexistent: in 2022, the U.S. built just five oceangoing commercial ships, compared to Chinas 1,794 and South Koreas 734. The U.S. Navy estimates that Chinas shipbuilding capacity is 232 times our own. It costs roughly twice as much to build a ship in the U.S. as it does elsewhere. The commercial shipbuilders that do exist only survive thanks to protectionist laws like the Jones Act, which serve to prop up an industry which is uncompetitive internationally. As a result, the U.S. annually imports over 4 trillion dollars worth of goods, 40% of which are delivered by ship (more than by any other mode of transportation), but those ships are overwhelmingly built elsewhere.
Another worrying indicator is shipbuilding capacity. Commercial shipbuilding in the U.S. is virtually nonexistent: in 2022, the U.S. built just five oceangoing commercial ships, compared to Chinas 1,794 and South Koreas 734. The U.S. Navy estimates that Chinas shipbuilding capacity is 232 times our own. It costs roughly twice as much to build a ship in the U.S. as it does elsewhere. The commercial shipbuilders that do exist only survive thanks to protectionist laws like the Jones Act, which serve to prop up an industry which is uncompetitive internationally. As a result, the U.S. annually imports over 4 trillion dollars worth of goods, 40% of which are delivered by ship (more than by any other mode of transportation), but those ships are overwhelmingly built elsewhere.
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Battleships were largely obsolescent by the beginning of WW2. The new "Trump Class" ships, if actually built will [View all]
artemisia1
Dec 2025
OP
Think battleships are obsolete too, mostly good for bullying foreign nations by putting them offshore. I do think
Silent Type
Dec 2025
#1
When the ship pummels the shore with shells, will that be a Trump Golden Shower?
TheBlackAdder
Dec 2025
#31
35,000 tons for "Trump" Class vs. 57,000 tons for the WW2 Iowa Class Battleships. You are right. Battlecruiser
artemisia1
Dec 2025
#11
And far short of the 70,000 tons Yamato and Musashi Japanese battleships, which were ACTUALLY
Jack Valentino
Dec 2025
#24
Sinking of Prince of Wales and Repulse 10 December 1941. When it was discovered that even battle ready
artemisia1
Dec 2025
#9
N. Korea built a battleship recently. It sank when they tried to launch it. n/t
Jacson6
Dec 2025
#17
If they do build them then can we put him and his administration on them and send them to Caribbean waters?
chowder66
Dec 2025
#18
Trump's understanding of the term 'battleship' likely begins with 'a row-boat with shotguns'
Jack Valentino
Dec 2025
#25
MaddowBlog-Trump names battleship class after himself, advancing his personalization crusade
LetMyPeopleVote
Dec 2025
#39
New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' -- and will never sail: expert
LetMyPeopleVote
Dec 2025
#44