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dutch777

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2. There is the day to day process where right now we are weak as the minority. Then there is vision. Which we seem....

Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:08 AM

Dec 28

....to be scared of. We can beat the affordability drum and seemingly win in the near term. (Although we better figure out how to deliver on that or we will be in even worse position going forward than we are now). But what can we do to excite the aspirational vision that goes beyond the day to day and perhaps can lock in loyalty to the Dems long term rather than losing votes to conflict and conspiracy peddling Repugs? We used to have big ideas, long term goals, aspirations to progress the great American experiment and seems to me we lost that to roll around in the mud with the bullies and brain dead. Yes, we need to beat them where they are, but that is not to say we can't offer more, bigger, better while we do that.

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Democratic Party's Low Polling Numbers Explained [View all] Pototan Dec 28 OP

Many Democrats expect their elected Dem reps to lead the revolution. FalloutShelter Dec 28 #1

The GOP embraces their protesters and far right spokesmen Farmer-Rick Dec 28 #11

Not true at all creeksneakers2 Monday #31

Such a succinct argument Farmer-Rick Tuesday #48

For one thing, free trade is not a far right idea. creeksneakers2 Wednesday #50

Elected Democratic leaders need to endorse popular Democratic candidates and ideas while fighting the fights they can. Gore1FL Dec 28 #14

We don't actually need a revolution, we need a counter-revolution. The Reagan Revolution has to go JHB Dec 28 #17

The fight now is trying to protect what we have creeksneakers2 Monday #32

I submit that compromising our values doesn't protect us. If it did, we wouldn't be having these discussions. nt Gore1FL Monday #35

Submit away creeksneakers2 Monday #36

Zohran Mamdani got votes Gore1FL Monday #37

He won in New York City creeksneakers2 Monday #38

Ignore people long enough and they quit showing up. Gore1FL Monday #39

Biden: "Trickle-down economics has never worked" Harris: "Trickle-down economics benefited big corporations betsuni Tuesday #44

Facts differ. The current top rate is 37% Gore1FL Tuesday #45

Two paragraphs and you explained the problems that the Democrats have completely ignored Autumn Monday #34

One suggestion: Democratic leaders should hold "shadow" hearings and tape them Justice matters. Dec 28 #21

There is the day to day process where right now we are weak as the minority. Then there is vision. Which we seem.... dutch777 Dec 28 #2

trouble is- mopinko Dec 28 #5

And these things need to be accomplished in a hard hitting get-it-done manner. Trust_Reality Dec 28 #18

I think we can do both if we have a solid majority. I do hope someone is keeping a list of all the stuff to repair! dutch777 Tuesday #47

We need to be more outspoken WmChris Dec 28 #3

It doesn't fully explain it. everyonematters Dec 28 #4

"trans boys" angrychair Dec 28 #24

I should have said trans girls. everyonematters Dec 28 #25

Corporate media has their thumb on the scale for the pukes as well. It's not an even playing field. Blues Heron Dec 28 #6

Yep. For profit media is for profit first. Trust_Reality Dec 28 #19

But Democratic candidates are winning Buckeyeblue Dec 28 #7

i don't see Dem adrenaline. AOC and Gavin are exceptions Tetrachloride Dec 28 #8

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Republicans are to the left of "corporate" Democrats? Martin Eden Dec 28 #13

It's simple. Low approval for Democrats does NOT equate to approval for Republicans Martin Eden Dec 28 #10

Yes, Democrats need to fight harder Mysterian Dec 28 #12

Democratic low polling numbers are from Democrats or unaffiliated Democratic leaning voters, 'cause the Democratic Fil1957 Dec 28 #15

Both parties make the same mistake of thinking--or choosing to think--that voters... Ol Janx Spirit Dec 28 #16

With a few exceptions (AOC, Gavin, Bernie) pinkstarburst Dec 28 #20

I think there's a disconnect between campaigning and achieving dickthegrouch Dec 28 #22

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Absolutely. That kind of damage to Democrats wasn't possible before. betsuni Dec 28 #28

Republicans can't do policy. OAITW r.2.0 Dec 28 #26

Many of the polls ask the wrong questions Bluetus Dec 28 #27

When grievances matter more than vulnerabilities. betsuni Dec 28 #29

I have a good explanation for it. bob4460 Monday #30

Too many use pretzel logic to blame democrats SocialDemocrat61 Monday #33

My point of the OP, exactly Pototan Monday #40

Winning elections is more important and better than being liked JI7 Tuesday #41

Then why don't they support Jasmine Crockett JI7 Tuesday #42

Yes, and this "fighting" business is a both sides insinuation that Democrats don't fight. betsuni Tuesday #43

Most people claim democrats lost the election due to messaging fujiyamasan Tuesday #46

I wish we could openly talk about our party on this site. We have so many problems that needs to be addressed Mr. Sparkle Tuesday #49

What "runs down the spine of our party"? Please give examples of problems. betsuni Wednesday #51