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FascismIsDeath

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81. Yea I think you're giving our citizens way too much credit.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 12:13 AM
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We elected Trump twice and even when Biden beat him, it wasn't the blow out it should've been, if we were a decent people. There are too many of us that are shameless.

AI coding tools don't need to be as accurate as calculators.... at least not for run of the mill business applications, which is my realm. The models just need to be broken down into separate models for separate types of system architecture needs. I was tasked with researching some of this stuff myself. I can take a block of server side C# code that I wrote and paste it into something like Co-Pilot and tell it to generate the client side JavaScript equivalent of it and it does a pretty impressive job. As a coder, I can look at what it generated and immediately see where it needed a few minor tweaks. If someone decides to create new models trained on specific coding tasks and builds more sophisticated user interfaces around those models that goes beyond learning to write prompts, its only going to get "better" (and by better, I mean worse for my job security). GenAI models are really good at reproducing finite, logical patterns already.

I also work with a data scientist who trains models on our client data to formulate predictions and such... and thats actually an ethical use, nothing in those datasets is stolen. Our clients are paying extra for us to take their data and do things like that.

I'm only bringing that part up to say, I work with experts on this stuff. I know a lot about it. I know how much clients like what some of it can do for them. They are not going to be shamed into not wanting it. Thats like saying big corporations will eventually become ashamed of making more money than they should off their products. Die hard, unfettered capitalists are not going to become ashamed of anything that saves them a dime.

This is why I'm scared for my career, I've seen too much of this first hand. And at the same time, I'm pretty much forced to interact with it myself because its becoming part of my job.

Eventually you will probably have some showdown on the copyright infringement aspects of it. And that will likely create a whole new industry where people put together datasets in a legal way and sell them to GenAI hosts for retraining their models on in a legal way. If that happens, and I think it will, it will only strengthen the argument for its continued existence.

Now, as I said, the bubble around it is going to burst just like it did for the dotcom's. But plenty of dotcom's survived the burst and now pretty much rule the world (Amazon, Ebay, Google, etc).

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Oops, wrong reply mike_c Monday #4
I saved my reply to yours, if you want to repost your "don't throw out the baby with the bath water" highplainsdem Monday #9
I know. But we have people here who are knowingly posting AI slop as if it's somehow a plus on a highplainsdem Monday #6
True -- and I'm pretty confident that was the root purpose of this OP. KPN Monday #35
So easy to spot, so awful. I've tried a few YouTube short NewHendoLib Monday #2
And those AI-slop documentaries are flooding YouTube now, making it harder and harder to find real highplainsdem Monday #16
And a lot of the AI slop that we see on social media PatSeg Monday #23
As far as the ones that are less obvious.. mdbl Monday #30
That's interesting PatSeg Monday #36
Is this video from George Conway real or fake? Renew Deal Monday #59
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This very upsetting, Highplainsdem!! brakester Tuesday #67
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Disclaimer brakester Wednesday #84
Kick SheltieLover Monday #3
Thanks! highplainsdem Monday #17
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K&R. Thanks for your work. WhiskeyGrinder Monday #5
You're welcome! Thanks for everything you've posted about this, too. highplainsdem Monday #10
r&k MerryBlooms Monday #7
Thank you! highplainsdem Monday #18
Excellent responses in that thread. progressoid Monday #8
I'll Second That! ProfessorGAC Monday #13
Hundreds. There should be a link to see more replies when you get to the end of the first batch. highplainsdem Monday #19
I Thought I Did ProfessorGAC Monday #22
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Generated AI for content is slop...but AI technology is here to stay and will continue to exponentially grow. Melon Monday #11
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Agreed on the ethics part of it but GenAI isn't going anywhere either. The bubble will burst but there will be survivors FascismIsDeath Tuesday #76
There's enough of a backlash already that I think we can reach a point where it's considered highplainsdem Tuesday #79
Yea I think you're giving our citizens way too much credit. FascismIsDeath Wednesday #81
I'm just going off what I've read and heard, but based on that, I'm expecting more and highplainsdem Wednesday #83
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So what? Cirsium Monday #26
You can be against anything...like the protest over cars versus buggy's Melon Monday #50
Horrible Cirsium Monday #52
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It's a bubble Cirsium Tuesday #66
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Somebody tell Thom Hartman Bobstandard Monday #25
Has he changed it recently? Cirsium Monday #28
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DU ain't as pro-union as it likes to think it is. LudwigPastorius Monday #27
Well, we're all endangered by genAI now, and even if DUers aren't in unions, they need to understand highplainsdem Monday #33
Opposing that bill didn't have anything to do with being anti-union EarlG Monday #37
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I disagree, and I'm not going to argue , but I will say... LudwigPastorius Monday #43
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SOPA awful though Polybius Monday #62
Thanks Cirsium Monday #29
You're very welcome! Thanks for the reply! highplainsdem Monday #44
What worries me The Madcap Monday #31
It's insane for companies to risk their own data that way. But I've never seen as much hype to highplainsdem Monday #45
Feel like we should bring back the un-rec experiment nilram Monday #32
Why would you want to unrec a post about how union members and supporters feel about AI slop? If highplainsdem Monday #34
Wasn't clear: wanting to unrec AI slop, not this thread. nilram Monday #48
Thanks for explaining! I'm relieved to hear that's what you meant. highplainsdem Monday #51
Kicked for visibility. Seems our species denial of unintended consequences KPN Monday #38
Thanks! And I agree that entirely too many people are unable to see or deliberately ignoring all the highplainsdem Monday #47
I have earned my living... GiqueCee Monday #39
I'm so sorry you ran into that. I agree that business types, suits, are often both too contemptuous of artists, and highplainsdem Monday #55
Wow...I missed this...i guess bc I'm not really following stuff closely, being out of the field.... electric_blue68 Tuesday #73
I could hardly believe how vicious the "Chamber of Progress" people were when talking about highplainsdem Tuesday #74
Lord knows, most artists are not wealthy! electric_blue68 Tuesday #75
Astute business sense... GiqueCee Wednesday #82
As a former graphic designer, and sometimes illustrator, when not doing clerical work, and long time artist of 55+ yrs.. electric_blue68 Tuesday #72
I wish you the best of luck with the new painting, and I think the disgust with AI slop and the backlash highplainsdem Tuesday #77
Thanks for this breakdown, and for your good wishes! electric_blue68 Tuesday #80
"Anyone can be an artist now!" - AI Tech Bros Oneironaut Thursday #86
Would that the subject matter be in a glass jar, controlled. cachukis Monday #49
I'm outraged... WarGamer Monday #53
I'm amused that you think that's a good reply countering what all those people were saying. But hey, highplainsdem Monday #56
No way to block it on here, is there? TommyT139 Monday #54
A forum just for posting AI slop and talking about how wonderful AI is would be an even worse look highplainsdem Monday #57
Block what? Renew Deal Monday #60
Add AI "artwork" to that list, I'd say (nt) Orrex Tuesday #78
kick highplainsdem Tuesday #65
Kick electric_blue68 Tuesday #69
Thanks! highplainsdem Tuesday #70
YW electric_blue68 Tuesday #71
I'm a creative, I'll never support the use of "AI" for any reason. None at all. mucholderthandirt Friday #87
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