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FascismIsDeath

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81. Yea I think you're giving our citizens way too much credit.
Wed Dec 31, 2025, 01:13 AM
Dec 2025

We elected Trump twice and even when Biden beat him, it wasn't the blow out it should've been, if we were a decent people. There are too many of us that are shameless.

AI coding tools don't need to be as accurate as calculators.... at least not for run of the mill business applications, which is my realm. The models just need to be broken down into separate models for separate types of system architecture needs. I was tasked with researching some of this stuff myself. I can take a block of server side C# code that I wrote and paste it into something like Co-Pilot and tell it to generate the client side JavaScript equivalent of it and it does a pretty impressive job. As a coder, I can look at what it generated and immediately see where it needed a few minor tweaks. If someone decides to create new models trained on specific coding tasks and builds more sophisticated user interfaces around those models that goes beyond learning to write prompts, its only going to get "better" (and by better, I mean worse for my job security). GenAI models are really good at reproducing finite, logical patterns already.

I also work with a data scientist who trains models on our client data to formulate predictions and such... and thats actually an ethical use, nothing in those datasets is stolen. Our clients are paying extra for us to take their data and do things like that.

I'm only bringing that part up to say, I work with experts on this stuff. I know a lot about it. I know how much clients like what some of it can do for them. They are not going to be shamed into not wanting it. Thats like saying big corporations will eventually become ashamed of making more money than they should off their products. Die hard, unfettered capitalists are not going to become ashamed of anything that saves them a dime.

This is why I'm scared for my career, I've seen too much of this first hand. And at the same time, I'm pretty much forced to interact with it myself because its becoming part of my job.

Eventually you will probably have some showdown on the copyright infringement aspects of it. And that will likely create a whole new industry where people put together datasets in a legal way and sell them to GenAI hosts for retraining their models on in a legal way. If that happens, and I think it will, it will only strengthen the argument for its continued existence.

Now, as I said, the bubble around it is going to burst just like it did for the dotcom's. But plenty of dotcom's survived the burst and now pretty much rule the world (Amazon, Ebay, Google, etc).

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A lot of AI is ridiculously obvious; but some are not. hlthe2b Dec 2025 #1
Oops, wrong reply mike_c Dec 2025 #4
I saved my reply to yours, if you want to repost your "don't throw out the baby with the bath water" highplainsdem Dec 2025 #9
I know. But we have people here who are knowingly posting AI slop as if it's somehow a plus on a highplainsdem Dec 2025 #6
True -- and I'm pretty confident that was the root purpose of this OP. KPN Dec 2025 #35
So easy to spot, so awful. I've tried a few YouTube short NewHendoLib Dec 2025 #2
And those AI-slop documentaries are flooding YouTube now, making it harder and harder to find real highplainsdem Dec 2025 #16
And a lot of the AI slop that we see on social media PatSeg Dec 2025 #23
As far as the ones that are less obvious.. mdbl Dec 2025 #30
That's interesting PatSeg Dec 2025 #36
Is this video from George Conway real or fake? Renew Deal Dec 2025 #59
Fake, and it's labeled "Altered or synthetic content" on the video thumbnail, and the YouTube channel highplainsdem Dec 2025 #63
This very upsetting, Highplainsdem!! brakester Dec 2025 #67
That youtube channel isn't affiliated with Conway at all. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2025 #68
Disclaimer brakester Dec 2025 #84
Kick SheltieLover Dec 2025 #3
Thanks! highplainsdem Dec 2025 #17
Yw SheltieLover Dec 2025 #21
K&R. Thanks for your work. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2025 #5
You're welcome! Thanks for everything you've posted about this, too. highplainsdem Dec 2025 #10
r&k MerryBlooms Dec 2025 #7
Thank you! highplainsdem Dec 2025 #18
Excellent responses in that thread. progressoid Dec 2025 #8
I'll Second That! ProfessorGAC Dec 2025 #13
Hundreds. There should be a link to see more replies when you get to the end of the first batch. highplainsdem Dec 2025 #19
I Thought I Did ProfessorGAC Dec 2025 #22
You have to click on her post here highplainsdem Dec 2025 #24
I Did ProfessorGAC Dec 2025 #41
Aren't they, though? As much as she upset her own union members and left them feeling betrayed, their highplainsdem Dec 2025 #14
Generated AI for content is slop...but AI technology is here to stay and will continue to exponentially grow. Melon Dec 2025 #11
GenAI is a technological dead end, inherently flawed with hallucinations, fundamentally unethical because of highplainsdem Dec 2025 #12
Agreed on the ethics part of it but GenAI isn't going anywhere either. The bubble will burst but there will be survivors FascismIsDeath Dec 2025 #76
There's enough of a backlash already that I think we can reach a point where it's considered highplainsdem Dec 2025 #79
Yea I think you're giving our citizens way too much credit. FascismIsDeath Dec 2025 #81
I'm just going off what I've read and heard, but based on that, I'm expecting more and highplainsdem Dec 2025 #83
Oh yea, it definitely causes problems. FascismIsDeath Jan 2026 #85
Microplastics are here to stay as well, doesn't mean we shouldn't try to eat less of them. WhiskeyGrinder Dec 2025 #15
Right! highplainsdem Dec 2025 #20
So what? Cirsium Dec 2025 #26
You can be against anything...like the protest over cars versus buggy's Melon Dec 2025 #50
Horrible Cirsium Dec 2025 #52
No it's not. The race for AI dominance is driving all the market volatility we see... Melon Dec 2025 #64
It's a bubble Cirsium Dec 2025 #66
No country is going to get to AGI, let alone ASI, building more data centers for genAI, which is the highplainsdem Dec 2025 #58
Somebody tell Thom Hartman Bobstandard Dec 2025 #25
Has he changed it recently? Cirsium Dec 2025 #28
He shouldn't be using AI. It's an insult to real musicians and helps only AI bros. He could ask his highplainsdem Dec 2025 #40
DU ain't as pro-union as it likes to think it is. LudwigPastorius Dec 2025 #27
Well, we're all endangered by genAI now, and even if DUers aren't in unions, they need to understand highplainsdem Dec 2025 #33
Opposing that bill didn't have anything to do with being anti-union EarlG Dec 2025 #37
Thanks for explaining! Just googled the date for that and it was back when caregiving and highplainsdem Dec 2025 #42
I disagree, and I'm not going to argue , but I will say... LudwigPastorius Dec 2025 #43
I'm not opposed to meaningful legislation that would stem the tide of copyrighted works online EarlG Dec 2025 #46
As I've told other DUers who were professional musicians, we'd love to hear your music, if you highplainsdem Dec 2025 #61
SOPA awful though Polybius Dec 2025 #62
Thanks Cirsium Dec 2025 #29
You're very welcome! Thanks for the reply! highplainsdem Dec 2025 #44
What worries me The Madcap Dec 2025 #31
It's insane for companies to risk their own data that way. But I've never seen as much hype to highplainsdem Dec 2025 #45
Feel like we should bring back the un-rec experiment nilram Dec 2025 #32
Why would you want to unrec a post about how union members and supporters feel about AI slop? If highplainsdem Dec 2025 #34
Wasn't clear: wanting to unrec AI slop, not this thread. nilram Dec 2025 #48
Thanks for explaining! I'm relieved to hear that's what you meant. highplainsdem Dec 2025 #51
Kicked for visibility. Seems our species denial of unintended consequences KPN Dec 2025 #38
Thanks! And I agree that entirely too many people are unable to see or deliberately ignoring all the highplainsdem Dec 2025 #47
I have earned my living... GiqueCee Dec 2025 #39
I'm so sorry you ran into that. I agree that business types, suits, are often both too contemptuous of artists, and highplainsdem Dec 2025 #55
Wow...I missed this...i guess bc I'm not really following stuff closely, being out of the field.... electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #73
I could hardly believe how vicious the "Chamber of Progress" people were when talking about highplainsdem Dec 2025 #74
Lord knows, most artists are not wealthy! electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #75
Astute business sense... GiqueCee Dec 2025 #82
As a former graphic designer, and sometimes illustrator, when not doing clerical work, and long time artist of 55+ yrs.. electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #72
I wish you the best of luck with the new painting, and I think the disgust with AI slop and the backlash highplainsdem Dec 2025 #77
Thanks for this breakdown, and for your good wishes! electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #80
"Anyone can be an artist now!" - AI Tech Bros Oneironaut Jan 2026 #86
Would that the subject matter be in a glass jar, controlled. cachukis Dec 2025 #49
I'm outraged... WarGamer Dec 2025 #53
I'm amused that you think that's a good reply countering what all those people were saying. But hey, highplainsdem Dec 2025 #56
No way to block it on here, is there? TommyT139 Dec 2025 #54
A forum just for posting AI slop and talking about how wonderful AI is would be an even worse look highplainsdem Dec 2025 #57
Block what? Renew Deal Dec 2025 #60
Add AI "artwork" to that list, I'd say (nt) Orrex Dec 2025 #78
kick highplainsdem Dec 2025 #65
Kick electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #69
Thanks! highplainsdem Dec 2025 #70
YW electric_blue68 Dec 2025 #71
I'm a creative, I'll never support the use of "AI" for any reason. None at all. mucholderthandirt Jan 2026 #87
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