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AloeVera

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28. I don't accept the premise of your question.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 11:43 AM
Jan 2

Such a question is underpinned - subtly, cleverly - by a refusal to admit that Israel's response was not at all "proper".

To me, that viewpoint is still defending Netanyahu's "war" and if you are defending that, you are still pro-Netanyahu in the only way that matters.

A "proper" response would have started with the acknowledgement that Palestinian civilians were not collectively responsible for October 7th. It was clear from the very beginning that was not the case - to wit, "we are fighting animals", "a second Nakba" "all laws of warfare have been loosened" "there are no innocents" etc. Because of that refusal to do so the the laws of war and humanitarian laws and conventions were thrown out the window and a murderous spree of vengeance and retribution followed. I don't think that was "proper".

A person can support the existence of a sovereign state of Israel as long as that support does not morph into support for the erasure of Palestinians from their lands and homes. I'm afraid that, unless you opposed Netanyahu's war that was clearly fought dishonestly, savagely and illegally to achieve THAT VERY GOAL of Palestinian erasure, then you still don't understand why this war was wrong on many levels. You could start by asking different questions that are not underpinned by a desire to excuse or mitigate. For example, why did all of Israeli society (with the exception of stalwart old leftists and human rights defenders, alas far too few and dwindling every year) accept the idea of collective responsibility and collective punishment - why were they not as revolted by the carnage as the rest of the world, quite the opposite?

And I never ignore Palestinian "grievances". The whole problem as I see it - the root of all this evil happening there - is that they've been ignored for too long.





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Moving people out of Gaza? [View all] applegrove Dec 29 OP
How long will the people of America tolerate this? I guess unless it directly affects them forever. walkingman Dec 29 #1
Trump earlier said housing would be built for the displaced Gazans... But, who will build it? Norrrm Dec 29 #2
Weren't there a lot of users on this site backing Netanyahu's actions? AStern Dec 29 #3
Don't confuse being anti-Hamas and anti-anti-Biden rhetoric RandomNumbers Dec 29 #6
If you support the ACTIONS of someone, you support that person, no? AloeVera Dec 30 #8
Irrelevant to my post; AND: Harris WOULD NOT have been worse on Gaza, and RandomNumbers Jan 1 #9
I think you missed some nuances there, while misinterpreting what I said. AloeVera Jan 2 #25
Recommended. H2O Man Jan 1 #10
Just a quick question: Mossfern Jan 1 #14
That would be H2O Man Jan 1 #15
I honestly don't think it necessary to get into it again Mossfern Jan 1 #16
Yes, I know H2O Man Jan 1 #17
Well then ... Mossfern Jan 1 #19
I agree. H2O Man Jan 1 #20
Too simple - or incomplete- an explanation that lets the broader society off the hook. AloeVera Jan 1 #23
I thought Mossfern Jan 2 #27
I don't accept the premise of your question. AloeVera Jan 2 #28
Thanks Mossfern Jan 2 #29
If you don't get it, I don't know what else to say to you. AloeVera Jan 2 #30
Nowhere have I ever implied Mossfern Jan 2 #35
What room do we have to lecture? The Revolution Jan 1 #12
Please. H2O Man Jan 1 #13
Thank you H2O Man. AloeVera Jan 1 #22
"We" didn't commit Tokyo or Dresden etc. Our governments did, and they were wrong then as now. AloeVera Jan 1 #24
They tend to disappear Bettie Jan 1 #21
Of course he's gonna help them relocate..he's biting at the bit to get those resorts going up Deuxcents Dec 29 #4
Ummm, isn't that one of the reasons there are issues in the area to begin with? haele Dec 29 #5
Many Gazans have already been re-located TO Gaza...nt Wounded Bear Jan 1 #11
Exactly the point. haele Jan 1 #18
FIL Trump and God Father Netanyahu Blue Full Moon Dec 29 #7
Kickin' the can. Good post. Dave Bowman Jan 2 #26
"...the opportunity to live in a better climate..." LudwigPastorius Jan 2 #31
I like your style! AloeVera Jan 2 #32
I'd be worried about the people of Somaliland more than the Gazans gulliver Jan 2 #33
"Sequestered". AloeVera Jan 2 #34
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