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MadameButterfly

(3,907 posts)
14. I have a different perspective
Sun Jan 4, 2026, 11:21 AM
Jan 4

Not that you are wrong but I think its not so simple.

--Commerce between Germany/France and Russia had the potential of creating dependency but also moderating differences. This made sanctions more important with the invasion of Ukraine. Both countries are investing heavily in solar and targeting carbon neutral/non-dependence on oil.
--Biden was a catalyst in creating the alliance that supports Ukraine, but it appears that Europe is stepping up and contributing military and economic support on a large scale. Are they doing as much as they can/should? I'm not qualified to say.
--Brexit was a slight majority of UK that largely now regrets it, representing a similar population to Americans who voted for Trump.
--Leaders who oppose Trump in the US and abroad are making calculations how much to fight vs compromise. With the current power structure, it seems they lose either way. Trump is bent on destruction and will blame others regardless. There should never again be so much power in the hands of one man.
--The people who are spoiled and lazy are the oligarchs/billionaires in the US who think they benefit from colluding with Trump, the Republican Party without whom his rule would not be possible, and foreign dictators. I hope the day comes when they will have to pay.

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Trump has been extorting world leaders from the minute he stole the WH. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #1
Probably. OldBaldy1701E Jan 4 #3
It is doubtful they will fight the US military. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #5
Surely not toe-to-toe; that would be suicidal. Buns_of_Fire Jan 4 #7
Europe has been making bad decisions for quite some time. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #10
I have a different perspective MadameButterfly Jan 4 #14
I agree and disagree. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #18
Your really think MadameButterfly Jan 7 #29
I'm sure D_Master81 Jan 5 #27
Greenland doesn't have a corrupt, dangerous president like Venezuela did FakeNoose Jan 4 #8
We have no data to support the idea NATO will do the right thing. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #11
When Ukraine was first invaded, Joe Biden was in the White House FakeNoose Jan 4 #19
NATO against the U.S. military James48 Jan 4 #23
The number of casualties would be very high. Irish_Dem Jan 5 #25
I'm not sure what order but he has 3 years: MadameButterfly Jan 4 #15
Yes these are the potential crimes he has openly talked about. Irish_Dem Jan 4 #17
Well said! KT2000 Jan 4 #2
And now he's going to rob Venezuela too Farmer-Rick Jan 4 #4
Praying Gropenfuhrer doesn't have elections outlawed come Nov. KS Toronado Jan 4 #6
He can't outlaw the midterm elections FakeNoose Jan 4 #9
Before another innocent country is invaded Delmette2.0 Jan 4 #12
And they're loading in so much debt that Democrats won't have the resources to fix our ruined nation if they ever get NBachers Jan 4 #13
I think its a different thing MadameButterfly Jan 4 #16
Years ago Carlin said, "They're coming for your Social Security" Kennah Jan 4 #20
This basically proves popsdenver Jan 4 #21
Chaos is being fomented to cover his tracks. live love laugh Jan 4 #22
The only thing that we can do Dan Jan 5 #24
Shades The Wizard Jan 5 #26
The cost of the Venezuela "campaign"... BH liberal Jan 5 #28
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