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Kid Berwyn

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73. CIA SUCCESSFULLY CONCEALS BAY OF PIGS HISTORY
Wed Jan 7, 2026, 02:22 PM
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CIA SUCCESSFULLY CONCEALS BAY OF PIGS HISTORY

D.C. CIRCUIT SPLIT DECISION RULES CIA DRAFT HISTORY CAN BE KEPT SECRET INDEFINITELY

NATIONAL SECURITY ARCHIVE FOIA LAWSUIT EXPOSES GAP BETWEEN OBAMA ADMINISTRATION'S "TRANSPARENCY" POLICIES AND ACTUAL BUREAUCRATIC (AND JUDICIAL) BEHAVIOR


Posted May 21, 2014
For more information contact:
202/994-7000 or nsarchiv@gwu.edu

Washington, DC, May 21, 2014 – The U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit yesterday joined the CIA's cover-up of its Bay of Pigs disaster in 1961 by ruling that a 30-year-old volume of the CIA's draft "official history" could be withheld from the public under the "deliberative process" privilege, even though four of the five volumes have previously been released with no harm either to national security or any government deliberation.

"The D.C. Circuit's decision throws a burqa over the bureaucracy," said Tom Blanton, director of the National Security Archive (www.nsarchive.org), the plaintiff in the case. "Presidents only get 12 years after they leave office to withhold their deliberations," commented Blanton, "and the Federal Reserve Board releases its verbatim transcripts after five years. But here the D.C. Circuit has given the CIA's historical office immortality for its drafts, because, as the CIA argues, those drafts might 'confuse the public.'"

"Applied to the contents of the National Archives of the United States, this decision would withdraw from the shelves more than half of what's there," Blanton concluded.

The 2-1 decision, authored by Judge Brett Kavanaugh (a George W. Bush appointee and co-author of the Kenneth Starr report that published extensive details of the Monica Lewinsky affair), agreed with Justice Department and CIA lawyers that because the history volume was a "pre-decisional and deliberative" draft, its release would "expose an agency's decision making process in such a way as to discourage candid discussion within the agency and thereby undermine the agency's ability to perform its functions."

SNIP...

Prior to yesterday's decision, the Obama administration had bragged that reducing the government's invocation of the b-5 exemption was proof of the impact of the President's Day One commitment to a "presumption of disclosure." Instead, the bureaucracy has actually increased in the last two years its use of the b-5 exemption, which current White House counselor John Podesta once characterized as the "withhold if you want to" exemption.

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http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20140521/

To the present day.

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Yup... 2naSalit Jan 2026 #1
Oh dear .... DURHAM D Jan 2026 #3
It was... 2naSalit Jan 2026 #7
Very clearly. It was really frightening. Ocelot II Jan 2026 #2
Yup Mossfern Jan 2026 #4
Yes..I was in jr high school and scared to death because we were having drills in school and heard all kinds of stories Deuxcents Jan 2026 #5
And a smart Attorney General in RFK. John1956PA Jan 2026 #6
The movie ''Thirteen Days'' highlighted that decision ... aggiesal Jan 2026 #20
We need someone to play a president BaronChocula Jan 2026 #35
Greenwood played the President in this movie (Thirteen Days) ... aggiesal Jan 2026 #53
I saw that in the theater. electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #41
This message was self-deleted by its author raccoon Jan 2026 #57
I was a freshman in high school. I wasn't afraid because I was still naive enough to believe ... Jim__ Jan 2026 #8
Clearly remember. sinkingfeeling Jan 2026 #9
The bay of pigs UpInArms Jan 2026 #10
The one ship turned around and left. It was a CIA operation. Blue Full Moon Jan 2026 #11
We watched the whole damm thing on TV. ananda Jan 2026 #12
Ohhh, yeah. The TV footage ... electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #13
I was10 years old. Delmette2.0 Jan 2026 #83
Ohhh, boy. "Thanks", bro. electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #84
I was 'in utero' at the time of the 'missile crisis', that happened two months before my birth in December 1962.... Jack Valentino Jan 2026 #14
I was in the 8th grade, in a heavily military town. Most of my classmates, and I, niyad Jan 2026 #15
Oh, yeah. Like NYC, too. electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #31
I was in Kindergarten Omaha Steve Jan 2026 #16
Duck and cover BeneteauBum Jan 2026 #17
Like it was yesterday. moniss Jan 2026 #18
I was in Kindergarten. My mom told me and my sister that we might not be around much longer. Fil1957 Jan 2026 #19
Goodness.... DURHAM D Jan 2026 #21
Nope, California... Fil1957 Jan 2026 #64
Remember it vividly. Only later did we learn the brave submariner who stopped at the blockade... FailureToCommunicate Jan 2026 #22
Oh, I remember hearing about that later! electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #43
Thankfully for me, I was four and totally oblivious. chicoescuela Jan 2026 #23
I was in elementary school and lived in Port Lyautey, Morocco on a Naval base the US shared with the French. mommymarine2003 Jan 2026 #24
Thank you for sharing. DURHAM D Jan 2026 #27
I remember the tv docudrama in 1974 BootinUp Jan 2026 #25
I remember Pototan Jan 2026 #26
3rd grade Lulu KC Jan 2026 #28
I was only 11 but I remember it very well. CanonRay Jan 2026 #29
I lived in Miami at the time and I remember anti-aircraft missle batteries set up around the edge of the city. flashman13 Jan 2026 #30
My first historic moment was Apollo 11 and the first moonwalk. nt Gore1FL Jan 2026 #32
I was 13, and we had just moved to Northern Virgina within a few miles of D.C. William Seger Jan 2026 #33
That's why I said NYC was probably target #2. electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #44
I was in the 8th grade and have a clear memory of it. My whole family was watching KitFox Jan 2026 #34
Did you have the Fallout Shelter signs anywhere? Yellow and Black? electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #46
Yes, there was one on the door of the courthouse and one in the lobby KitFox Jan 2026 #54
Hadn't thought of them in years! Maybe decades! electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #55
I Was Wrapping Up Basic Training At Fort Leonard Wood, MO DallasNE Jan 2026 #36
Yes bluestateboomer Jan 2026 #37
I will never forget that. ShazzieB Jan 2026 #38
We faced off for WWIII on 3 continents. ChicagoTeamster Jan 2026 #39
Yes, it was quite scary.. whathehell Jan 2026 #40
Trump May Finally Succeed In Killing Us All 2na fisherman Jan 2026 #42
Yes, I remember! pazzyanne Jan 2026 #45
I was fourteen. murielm99 Jan 2026 #47
Have wondered moondust Jan 2026 #48
Oh my goodness I Just Remembered an Incident 34 years Later that tied in! electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #49
How many of you had Air raid sirens go off in your city, or town?! electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #50
My town still uses the Air Raid Sirens. DURHAM D Jan 2026 #62
Oh! Ok. Do you get a lot of (yikes) tornados? Even a few is scary enough!! electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #71
Yes - in grade school KT2000 Jan 2026 #51
Yes. We had regular bombing drills in school. Bread and Circuses Jan 2026 #52
Goofing around at the dinner table during Kennedy's speech, my mom said, "You should pay attention, because this is NBachers Jan 2026 #56
I was in first grade at Tachikawa AFB in Japan. I didn't know anything about it until years later. LeftInTX Jan 2026 #58
Great memories of Tachikawa shanti Jan 2026 #75
No personally, I was only 1. But have learned a fair amount about it. LymphocyteLover Jan 2026 #59
I remember the neighbors putting in a bomb shelter right after it was resolved. Vinca Jan 2026 #60
Vividly. I was in the marines and we were locked in our barracks in case anybody Ping Tung Jan 2026 #61
I Was In The Army DallasNE Jan 2026 #72
I was 10 and remember it very well. Talitha Jan 2026 #63
Yep. Every day for weeks squadrons of aircraft flew over our Fla. high school football field allegorical oracle Jan 2026 #65
yes mike_c Jan 2026 #66
Same here ... I was maybe 10 or 11 FakeNoose Jan 2026 #68
I remember it well but I see it differently than many here. NNadir Jan 2026 #67
In retrospect I think Kennedy was given bad intel from the CIA FakeNoose Jan 2026 #69
I don't believe they were bluffing. They had a substantial nuclear arsenal, not as large... NNadir Jan 2026 #70
JFK was a great President who worked to prevent World War III. Kid Berwyn Jan 2026 #78
I disagree. He was his father's son. His father assured anyone who would listen... NNadir Jan 2026 #79
You might enjoy David Talbot's ''The Devil's Chessboard'' Kid Berwyn Jan 2026 #80
On the other hand, not being into conspiracy theories about JFK, I might be... NNadir Jan 2026 #87
CIA SUCCESSFULLY CONCEALS BAY OF PIGS HISTORY Kid Berwyn Jan 2026 #73
I was 16 at the time PCB66 Jan 2026 #74
I had just snowybirdie Jan 2026 #76
I was in 2nd grade mgardener Jan 2026 #77
Drove me to practice bomb shelter drills at age 9 PikaBlue Jan 2026 #81
Woah! electric_blue68 Jan 2026 #86
I was in high school mountain grammy Jan 2026 #82
Yes. I was in 8th grade and scared shitless! n/t Greybnk48 Jan 2026 #85
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