General Discussion

ICE?
Meet IEDs, ambushes, snipers and begin to understand the true meaning of "fear for my life".
Ask any vet who was in Vietnam, or Iraq how asymmetric warfare feels. Ask them about those IEDs and ambushes. Ask them about the morale of a platoon sent into a meaningless valley to "patrol" and serve as target practice for the enemy who already knows they're coming. What is happening now - being allowed to roll up in civilian vehicles, absent any uniforms or unit identification and expect to be respected or adhered to as is they are legitimate law enforcement (and not a fever dream from the warped mind of Stephen Miller) is done.

If the VC and NVA could bleed us out of Vietnam, and ISIS could survive in the mountains of Afghanistan and Iraq for 15+ years, and our REAL troops had to face that uncertainty and fear every single time they left base for patrols...well, I believe a nation of 300,000,000 PLUS guns and armed to the teeth citizens can do a lot more damage - targeted or collateral. I doubt the bravery and honor of those currently in the ICE gangs. They are cowards and will eat each other rather than cohere into an actual fighting force. I would bet in combat those ICE agent might just be the new ARVN rifles of real combat - dropped once and never fired.

It is time for the deteriorating Orange Oompa-loompa, his reincarnation of Goebbels goon, Cos-Play Barbie and her dress up 'men' to enter the "find out" portion of the FAFO proceedings; and to also be made 100% aware that by signing up for this 'duty', they forfeit any possibility of a peaceful life after Trump.

No one needs to be stupid and stand toe-to-toe in the streets with armed thugs, but the fear of the almighty resides NOT in the power to kill but the power to instill actual, real, debilitating fear in the hearts of those who are in the wrong and doing it for kicks or pay or both. The days of playing dress-up gang member/thug/paramilitary goon by day, and then going home to a family or life outside of such abysmal acts is OVER. The era of REAL fear - of dying by roadside bombs they never see, of becoming a true casualty of 'enemy fire', of being worried that when they go on one of these kidnapping 'missions' they really may not be coming home ever again - THAT is the fear they will be made to feel. Not the bullshit made-up version trotted out as justification for murder in broad day light.

These 'agents' are radioactive waste in polite society and Dead On Arrival for the job market of the future that does not involve being 'security' for billionaires. Their children and families are also not immune to the shame and ill will and disrepute they are engendering every second they line up and are counted as "ICE". You lie down with dogs, the fleas stay with YOU. You provide aid or succor to the same? Join them in infamy, but also know this - the paymasters in the billionaire class HATE you, and USE you, but will NEVER PROTECT you. They will discard, disavow and disown you in a nanosecond if it saves them even an extra hour of freedom.

I will NEVER hire, do business with, patronize businesses that DO support ICE in ANY way, or allow any former ICE agent or family member to try to forget their dishonorable role in this sad chapter of American history. They are permanently marked and that stain will NEVER wash clean again. Those fake uniforms cannot be burned. This real shame can never be forgiven.