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Fiendish Thingy

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23. The mechanisms are in the constitution
Mon Jan 12, 2026, 01:56 PM
Jan 2026

You know how impeachment works, and yes it would take some time, but not as much time as Trump’s or Clinton’s previous impeachments. It probably could be done within 30-45 days under the extreme circumstances described above, if not quicker. Remember, impeachment is not a legal proceeding, and Trump’s typical delay tactics would not affect a truly determined congress.

If an order to invade was imminent, the 25th amendment might need to be used to forestall or countermand such an order. From Wikipedia:

Section 4. Whenever the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive departments or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall immediately assume the powers and duties of the office as Acting President.

Thereafter, when the President transmits to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives his written declaration that no inability exists, he shall resume the powers and duties of his office unless the Vice President and a majority of either the principal officers of the executive department [sic][note 2][7] or of such other body as Congress may by law provide, transmit within four days to the President pro tempore of the Senate and the Speaker of the House of Representatives their written declaration that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office. Thereupon Congress shall decide the issue, assembling within forty-eight hours for that purpose if not in session. If the Congress, within twenty-one days after receipt of the latter written declaration, or, if Congress is not in session, within twenty-one days after Congress is required to assemble, determines by two-thirds vote of both Houses that the President is unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office, the Vice President shall continue to discharge the same as Acting President; otherwise, the President shall resume the powers and duties of his office.


So, my reading of that section is the VP and majority of the cabinet can buy Congress at least 21 days to act. If the US were facing the cataclysmic consequences described in the OP, I think the motivation and momentum would be there. It’s very likely there would be some significant Sabre-rattling by the EU, Canada, Japan and others, both publicly and behind the scenes- for example, threats to sell off US treasury bonds, crashing the dollar, which would give Trump and congress advance notice of the conflagration that would follow an invasion of Greenland.

PS- I know how important word-parsing is to you, but I couldn’t find the phrase “immediately impeach and remove” in any of my posts in this thread.

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"The first domino to fall is the North Atlantic Treaty Organization itself" kentuck Jan 2026 #1
Not just Putin but blue-wave Jan 2026 #20
For the love of God . . . Scubamatt Jan 2026 #58
there are but they have proven themselves to be cowards. nt Javaman Jan 2026 #74
There are few. if any of those old Republicans alive today. The Nazi salute is the norm with this batch. peacebuzzard Jan 2026 #80
I fully expect china to invade Taiwan at that point. Javaman Jan 2026 #73
I've been screaming from the rooftops... GiqueCee Jan 2026 #66
Good analysis. Horrifying that this is who we are now. Every once in a while, the magnitude of that Scrivener7 Jan 2026 #2
All true, and why I said yesterday Trump would be impeached and removed- by Republicans Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #3
It's nice to imagine that angrychair Jan 2026 #13
That is clearly inaccurate Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #15
You have a lot more faith angrychair Jan 2026 #22
sadly, agreed Cosmocat Jan 2026 #30
if this comes to fruition, I see various states calling up their national guard against ICE Javaman Jan 2026 #75
I take no joy in agreeing this is the likely way it will play out Cosmocat Jan 2026 #29
What is the mechanism? dpibel Jan 2026 #17
The mechanisms are in the constitution Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #23
Yes. I gave a quick summary of the 25th dpibel Jan 2026 #27
I just reread all my comments in this thread, and I don't find the word "immediately" anywhere Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #38
I guess you missed my edit dpibel Jan 2026 #41
You should contact the major book publishers Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #48
LOL dpibel Jan 2026 #49
I guess I should be flattered with all your attention Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #50
It's funny when nitpicker becomes nitpickee Qutzupalotl Jan 2026 #59
Think the JFK mechanism Joinfortmill Jan 2026 #54
Doubtful Cosmocat Jan 2026 #25
Somewhere Lindsey Graham just *eed in his pants.... Jack Valentino Jan 2026 #64
We know what would happen to Piggy Jr' Coldwater Jan 2026 #4
It sickens me to my core to know that piece of shit believes he will one day be President... Moostache Jan 2026 #34
Heck, we've ALREADY had way more of that family than we could ever have wanted. calimary Jan 2026 #67
Fact of life Timewas Jan 2026 #5
None of this is going to happen. Glaisne Jan 2026 #6
It's not my analysis. I know the US has a long-standing treaty regarding the military base Ocelot II Jan 2026 #7
It's the worst case scenario, so it is a useful warning thought crime Jan 2026 #31
The U.S. has ONE base only. Breaking the NATO treaty will be an unlawful order to the U.S. Military. The NATO Treaty is ancianita Jan 2026 #8
i hadn't thought about it this way MadameButterfly Jan 2026 #33
But the US military has. ancianita Jan 2026 #40
Tim Kaine was similarly confident MadameButterfly Jan 2026 #45
Cool. What Congress thinks or votes on adds validation for a decision that is the U.S. Military's alone; ancianita Jan 2026 #46
As Trump has shown in just the past week, treaties can be torn up or ignored. Nt Fiendish Thingy Jan 2026 #16
We cannot afford this. bluescribbler Jan 2026 #9
The people of Greenland&Canada should launch a class-action lawsuit against the US for tRumps terror campaign against us Fords Crackpipe Jan 2026 #10
And Vladimir Putin will have gotten everything he wants, and he won't even have had to leave the building. Aristus Jan 2026 #11
Every so often, I think of Susan Sarandon Ruby the Liberal Jan 2026 #65
she is and will always be a fucking halfwit. nt Javaman Jan 2026 #76
A very clear, concise, and I believe correct accessment. Thank you Ocelot II flashman13 Jan 2026 #12
See the first word? It's IF. That makes the piece a total hypothetical. Not an analysis. The fact that it's on a social ancianita Jan 2026 #44
Don't be trying to school me. I suppose you think the world will thank us for for attacking an ally. flashman13 Jan 2026 #60
Pfffft school you? about a hypothetical not being logical? Believe what you want. ancianita Jan 2026 #62
I'm not predicting anything; don't give me credit or blame for this piece. Ocelot II Jan 2026 #71
Yep, that's Putin's plan that Trump is carrying out. Break up NATO and destroy the US economy from within. Fozzledick Jan 2026 #14
We should not be taking any of this lightly angrychair Jan 2026 #18
As someone said on another forum. . . Stargleamer Jan 2026 #19
I have always thought something drastic would have to happen to make people wake up. Katinfl Jan 2026 #21
Obviously this is a worst-case scenario, and all things that COULD be done by the EU and other NATO members. Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #24
Good points about Europe's response but MadameButterfly Jan 2026 #43
Well, just like the "hold my beer" guy...he's thinking something.... Ol Janx Spirit Jan 2026 #52
I don't think anything will disavow him because of his mental illness MadameButterfly Jan 2026 #57
This is all well and good to explain to a thinking man usedtobedemgurl Jan 2026 #26
I don't know Cosmocat Jan 2026 #28
Static analysis. bucolic_frolic Jan 2026 #32
I will finish your essay: ret5hd Jan 2026 #35
Yep, mission accomplished. This is the real goal, not Greenland. Irish_Dem Jan 2026 #37
The other thing that could happen is that there is little or no reaction. Irish_Dem Jan 2026 #36
My crystal ball is foggy. BarbD Jan 2026 #39
Kick. N/T Upthevibe Jan 2026 #42
Britian has just said in one of this a.m.'s bulletins on DU that they would put troops in Greenland now. If true, SWBTATTReg Jan 2026 #47
This sums it up CousinIT Jan 2026 #51
I don't think NATO dissolves, just the US's part in it. Javaman Jan 2026 #77
This explains a lot: "Ending the American Dream by 2029?" CousinIT Jan 2026 #78
thanks, I'll check it out. I read Toms Dispatch from time to time. :) nt Javaman Jan 2026 #79
The Russians own Trump. Joinfortmill Jan 2026 #53
I would like to see NATO Members OhioTim Jan 2026 #55
Is anyone telling this to Stephen Miller and tRump? joanbarnes Jan 2026 #56
Sounds to me like Corporate America better get their shit together and reign in their puppet.nt Trueblue Texan Jan 2026 #61
Chilling that the donor class hasn't gotten their shit together to stop him Ruby the Liberal Jan 2026 #63
Yeah, we'd become Figarosmom Jan 2026 #68
"Oh--everything I touch gets ruined." That's trump's life. C Moon Jan 2026 #69
The epitome of..... MarcoZandrini Jan 2026 #70
not to mention all the private companies that do business in Europe Javaman Jan 2026 #72
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