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11. Someone needs to give Miller a biography of Gene Roddenberry, flaming liberal "influencer" ...

Sat Jan 17, 2026, 05:30 PM

Jan 17

“If man is to survive, he will have learned to take a delight in the essential differences between men and between cultures. He will learn that differences in ideas and attitudes are a delight, part of life's exciting variety, not something to fear.”
― Gene Roddenberry

“Star Trek was an attempt to say that humanity will reach maturity and wisdom on the day that it begins not just to tolerate, but take a special delight in differences in ideas and differences in life forms. […] If we cannot learn to actually enjoy those small differences, to take a positive delight in those small differences between our own kind, here on this planet, then we do not deserve to go out into space and meet the diversity that is almost certainly out there.”
― Gene Roddenberry

from https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/43942.Gene_Roddenberry

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Stephen Miller Mocked For Begging William Shatner To Save 'Star Trek' From Wokeness [View all] USS_Dauntless Jan 17 OP

Did Shatner say he'd try? DJ Synikus Makisimus Jan 17 #1

Do you know how many of these there are? soldierant Jan 17 #48

Yep. Great movie. Hubby and I have watched it several times when it has been shown on TV. CTyankee Jan 18 #96

On the weird stuff Shatner has done front, don't forget Incubus pat_k Jan 18 #83

Star Trek in itself believed in everyone one, every species, every alien........ Lovie777 Jan 17 #2

Star Trek is the very definition of woke... 3catwoman3 Jan 17 #3

Yep, For 6 Decades ProfessorGAC Jan 17 #4

He could learn a few things if he spent some of his time watching "Star Trek". calimary Jan 17 #25

I just hope someone stops his white nationalist America ideology. vapor2 Jan 17 #75

I'll say! moose65 Jan 18 #90

Right MustLoveBeagles Jan 17 #45

How can Miller be a Star Trek fan and not know that? liberalla Jan 17 #50

No kidding. Bristlecone Jan 17 #72

That asshole with a head shaped like a... 2naSalit Jan 17 #5

Buttplug - I did a loud guffaw on that one. Excellent! nt Tadpole Raisin Jan 17 #65

Pee Wee German should be mocked daily. Dulcinea Jan 17 #77

I watched the show, it's " off". IT's the casting ,,,. Bread and Circuses Jan 17 #6

I assume the woman you're referring to is SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #10

Must be. I just don't find her a good fit for the role. I'm sure she's accomplished . Bread and Circuses Jan 17 #18

Yah the dhow is terrible. But I don't know if she is a bad fit or not Tadpole Raisin Jan 17 #66

Yes, the writing is subpar. I probably will try to watch another episode. Bread and Circuses Jan 17 #71

Thank you for providing her name!!! slightlv Jan 17 #58

That's Holly Hunter who's playing the academy chancellor. Xavier Breath Jan 17 #12

I just can't rock with the time period it's set in. USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #17

That's because mint has but a few legitimate places in our world: gum, toothpaste and Girl Scout cookies. Xavier Breath Jan 17 #22

I understand. I stopped watching 1/2 way into second episode. Bread and Circuses Jan 17 #20

Yeah, I thought the first ep was better and the second actually took a step back. Xavier Breath Jan 17 #23

I thought Holly Hunter did a great job! Silver Gaia Jan 17 #70

True, we do need to keep our minds open and embrace new things. Xavier Breath Jan 17 #76

I was referring to embracing yet another version of Star Trek, Silver Gaia Jan 18 #82

Haven't seen it yet, but I think you should at least see ?3 episodes to make a more informed opinion.... electric_blue68 Jan 17 #26

What do you think of Lower Decks? USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #39

Looking back on the first season of TNG, man, it was dreck. Xavier Breath Jan 17 #43

One of my favorite TNG eps is from S1, - E5. electric_blue68 Jan 17 #55

That was an awesome episode. USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #59

Glad you enjoyed it! electric_blue68 Jan 17 #64

That was the one with The Traveler, correct? Xavier Breath Jan 17 #78

Yup electric_blue68 Jan 17 #79

Star Trek woke? SocialDemocrat61 Jan 17 #7

Musk and Thiel will meet him in the Transporter Room one day. Kid Berwyn Jan 17 #8

Not sure what's more woke than having sex with a new alien every week SSJVegeta Jan 17 #9

Someone needs to give Miller a biography of Gene Roddenberry, flaming liberal "influencer" ... eppur_se_muova Jan 17 #11

Love it, I'm so glad I got to meet Gene Roddenberry back in the 70s... wcmagumba Jan 17 #29

Perfect malaise Jan 17 #31

Star Trek and MASH. 2 of the most woke shows . Srkdqltr Jan 17 #13

Two of my all time favorites! calimary Jan 17 #27

I disagree about MASH. Lots of cringy stuff mucifer Jan 18 #84

And in two early episodes Margaret is sexually assaulted by visiting physicians and it's played for laughs. Xavier Breath Jan 18 #86

Yeah, lots of old shows that seemed very liberal have some horrible stuff in them. Barney Miller had an episode mucifer Jan 18 #87

I must confess that M*A*S*H is one of my all-time favorites. Xavier Breath Jan 18 #88

He even dressed up in Star Trek outfits... BigmanPigman Jan 17 #14

Please, Scotty, beam him out of here. Xavier Breath Jan 17 #15

Into space. USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #16

'Widest possible dispersion' nt Tadpole Raisin Jan 17 #68

Miller probably seriously studies .. JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 17 #19

Excellent Bread and Circuses Jan 17 #21

LOVE this one! calimary Jan 17 #32

I know (knew) someone who is a trekker and a trumper progressoid Jan 17 #24

Likes Star Trek and a Trumper? Swede Jan 17 #33

There is simply no logic to be found, Mr. Spock. USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #44

Kirk kicks always ass and gets the girl JHB Jan 17 #56

How is that even possible? Sounds like a moron to not see the conflict... wcmagumba Jan 17 #34

There are Trump-loving BABYLON 5 fans. USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #40

Ohhhh, boy.... electric_blue68 Jan 17 #62

One of my closest friends was brainwashed by listening to Rush Limbaugh and other talk radio Wiz Imp Jan 17 #57

It boggles the mind. progressoid Jan 17 #73

I don't think my friend is that far gone, but I can't be sure. Wiz Imp Jan 17 #74

I thought Peter Thiel said the empire in Star Wars were the good guys fujiyamasan Jan 17 #67

Star Trek has been around for 6 decades. Initech Jan 17 #28

Get a clue, Nazi lover! electric_blue68 Jan 17 #30

Rodenberry was woke long before woke was even a thing. n/t TygrBright Jan 17 #35

Seriously! +1000 paleotn Jan 17 #38

Yup 👍 MustLoveBeagles Jan 17 #49

Dude? Star Trek's been woke as hell since the 60's paleotn Jan 17 #36

ALWAYS WOKE. IS CALLED INTEGRATION. Jimvanhise Jan 17 #37

The relationship between Garak and Bashir was a gay relationship. USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #47

Undiscovered Country bmichaelh Jan 17 #41

Star Trek VI is my favorite TOS movie. USS_Dauntless Jan 17 #46

I saw an interview with Shatner where he disowned the line "Let them die" referring to the Klingons. Intractable Jan 17 #80

I'm going to have to disagree with Bill on this one. Xavier Breath Jan 18 #85

Some how I don't think "Nazi Trek" would work too well. hadEnuf Jan 17 #42

Stephen Miller doesn't seem to realize that William Shatner is an immigrant? FakeNoose Jan 17 #51

Has he never seen the show? pfitz59 Jan 17 #52

hem. AllaN01Bear Jan 17 #53

I always wondered why IDIC, a Vulcan concept, has its acronym and meaning spelled out in English. Intractable Jan 17 #54

Please show the fucking nazi Javaman Jan 17 #60

Gene Roddenbury was very woke for his time. viva la Jan 17 #61

If you look at the replies on the deepfake porn site formerly known as Twitter, it's that the women muriel_volestrangler Jan 17 #63

Didn't Shatner kiss a black woman on that show? edbermac Jan 17 #69

Kissing is not enough -- Roddenberry had an affair with her. Intractable Jan 17 #81

Grrr! I always hate it when Right-Wing types make a claim to Star Trek. Collimator Jan 18 #89

It makes you wonder if the Nazi moron is even aware... Pluvious Jan 18 #91

I mean, it's not like it shared one of the first, if not the first interracial kiss on screen sakabatou Jan 18 #92

Star Trek was "woke" from the beginning iemanja Jan 18 #93

Could you imagine if the universe was stocked with nothing but human white MAGAT males? That's their delusion Clouds Passing Jan 18 #94

There was a Star Trek TOS Episode called "Cat's Paw". . . Collimator Jan 18 #95

Star Trek has always Figarosmom Jan 18 #97

Amazing Ray Bruns Jan 18 #98