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Buddyzbuddy

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24. Part of yhe reason it was consolidated from many departments

Thu Jan 29, 2026, 07:35 PM

Jan 29

was because one hand didn't know what the other was doing. They were not sharing information with each other so it was difficult to get a clear big picture of the threat from Bin Laden. Some theories are that it was purposeful.
The same theories floated after the attack on Pearl Harbor.
Either way, it has become too powerful and should be dismantled and they should return to the departments they once were with one added dept. overseeing the collection of data, organizing reports and acting on intelligence at behest of the President and advisors.

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I did not know this and I'll bet you don't either -- WE NEED TO KNOW THIS ABOUT DHS [View all] AverageOldGuy Jan 29 OP

The USA patriot act UpInArms Jan 29 #1

I remember when they started it saying it was privacy in the terlet. twodogsbarking Jan 29 #8

Same. Alliepoo Jan 30 #47

Yup. Alex Jones HATED IT till about mmmmm...2017 lol. Volaris Jan 30 #58

Yup debsy Jan 29 #12

This 👆🏼 UpInArms Jan 29 #17

I was offended by the Nazi type name itself IbogaProject Jan 29 #27

Yep. More of that isolationist stuff. Amaryllis Jan 29 #34

I remember it well. Many warnings from those with the foresight to see the implications. Amaryllis Jan 29 #33

Yep. I remember sitting with my extended family arguing about the obvious ramifications. harumph Jan 30 #50

Olbermann was railing about it nightly. Ferrets are Cool Jan 30 #52

Yeah, I lost friends over that. malthaussen Jan 30 #59

It was written BEFORE 9/11 TexasBushwhacker Jan 29 #16

True debsy Jan 29 #18

They wrote it and made certain to implement it UpInArms Jan 29 #19

I was gonna say......... popsdenver Jan 29 #36

The OPs surprise at these origins makes me feel old Random Boomer Jan 30 #45

They borrowed Homeland fron das Heimatland thomski64 Jan 30 #51

It was said at the time that homeland security was not a good thing. People were horrified by 9-11 so it came about. Srkdqltr Jan 29 #2

All by design SRK popsdenver Jan 29 #37

Of course. We also went to war with the wrong country. Twice. Not too bright. Srkdqltr Jan 29 #40

Great for popsdenver Jan 29 #43

The title "Homeland" was an intentional embrace of ethnic nationalism and white supremacy. pat_k Jan 29 #3

Truth! yellow dahlia Jan 29 #29

Didn't Hitler call his country his Homeland? Weren't the bushes nazis? Clouds Passing Jan 29 #4

Prescott Bush was in with the nazis debsy Jan 29 #20

And obviously his legacies have followed in his footsteps. Clouds Passing Jan 29 #28

Homeland Security. Passed by the Senate 90 to 9 progressoid Jan 29 #5

I called it the "KGWB"* when it was proposed and set up. lastlib Jan 29 #6

Fatherland 2na fisherman Jan 29 #7

9/11 Insanity. Iggo Jan 29 #9

Germany was the Fatherland, Russia was the Motherland, so those were taken... Wounded Bear Jan 29 #10

Um yeah, I remember this well. It was a big deal at the time. themaguffin Jan 29 #11

When Nixon's white house guards wore helmets Captain Zero Jan 29 #44

I remember when it was created. I thought at the time and still do, that it sounded like a Russian department name. n/t aggiesal Jan 29 #13

Bush fucked that up. I remember when they created it I thought it live love laugh Jan 29 #14

Check into PNAC, the Project for a New American Century CoopersDad Jan 29 #15

The first year that the Coast Guard was moved to DHS I had a chance to talk with a Coast Guard officer Hope22 Jan 29 #21

Your illustration shows how clear this was at all levels, except the ones behind it. yellow dahlia Jan 29 #31

Senator Russ Feingold of WI was the sole Nay in the Senate. Harker Jan 29 #22

Repeal the Homeland Security Act and the Patriot Act Blue Full Moon Jan 29 #23

Part of yhe reason it was consolidated from many departments Buddyzbuddy Jan 29 #24

Now you know why Rep Marie Gluesenkamp Perez D-WA3 DinahMoeHum Jan 29 #25

DHS is analogous to other country's... reACTIONary Jan 29 #26

Actually, I did know this. niyad Jan 29 #30

Yeah BaronChocula Jan 29 #38

As a US Coast Guard retiree, I agree. I have so many stories about how things changed for the worse after we were taken LT Barclay Jan 29 #32

Bush (the lesser) rolled all LEO into Homeland because "they can not communicate effectively seperated LiberalArkie Jan 29 #35

And it transformed into the American SS Gestapo . republianmushroom Jan 29 #39

Yea, some of us remember this. ms liberty Jan 29 #41

I remember this happening, so babylonsister Jan 29 #42

It was part of the Patriot Act Figarosmom Jan 30 #46

I commented to a friend at the time, "oh look, we just got our own Ministry of Truth". nt Javaman Jan 30 #48

Anyone who was a fed back then (like myself) BumRushDaShow Jan 30 #49

I remember at the time Mme. Defarge Jan 30 #53

The smirking chimp put FEMA under DHS too...making it much less efficient at response. CousinIT Jan 30 #54

DURec leftstreet Jan 30 #55

Didn't W put Cheney in charge of it all? stollen Jan 30 #56

Secret Service does big events such as summits and the like dsc Jan 30 #57

Some of us knew that at the time. Ms. Toad Jan 30 #60

I knew this. Like many others i hated it being called HOMELAND... I was against the whole thing... liberalla Jan 30 #61

Yep...I remeber when the "unpatriot act" was passed.... sdfernando Jan 30 #62