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hay rick

(9,494 posts)
53. Florida is the poster child for the corrupting influence of term limits.
Mon Feb 16, 2026, 11:44 AM
9 hrs ago

Florida politicians come up through a system in which statewide offices have 8 year term limits. The 120 Florida House members and 40 State Senators are paid around $30,000 a year- not enough to support a family. The people that are able to do this are in a position where they can take 3 months leave from their business or come from family wealth. Because these jobs do not create a professional career path, the greater incentive is to use the position and contacts to benefit themselves and those who have supported them and will continue to benefit them in the future. The incentives are perverse and grease the wheels of corruption.

If we do not offer politicians a path to developing professional excellence we will get the mediocrity and widespread corruption we claim we wish to avoid.

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Please, stop with the TERM LIMITS bs. [View all] 4bonhoffer 13 hrs ago OP
You are so right. Americanme 12 hrs ago #1
That's a good point Conjuay 12 hrs ago #2
Same! EuterpeThelo 12 hrs ago #9
re: "Agreed we should primary those who aren't effective" thesquanderer 9 hrs ago #54
I agree with you. Its ridiculous. Callie1979 4 hrs ago #75
100% Right on! NT CommonHumanity 12 hrs ago #3
I think that the longer someone stays in politics, the more likely they have convictions. everyonematters 12 hrs ago #4
Yes, or to feather their nest, lately that's the goal Walleye 12 hrs ago #6
I agree 100%, besides it's unconstitutional, not that that matters anymore Walleye 12 hrs ago #5
How is it unconstitutional? iemanja 2 hrs ago #85
The Constitution sets the qualification for representatives and senators. TomSlick 44 min ago #88
Term limits who have deprived us . . Michiblue 12 hrs ago #7
There are just as many good reasons for term limits as there are bad ones. sop 12 hrs ago #8
+1 leftstreet 10 hrs ago #35
We need campaign finance reform MadameButterfly 10 hrs ago #37
Because they are two sides of the same bright, shiny coin. Maru Kitteh 8 hrs ago #65
i also object to the party putting thumbs on the scale to promote the leadership's MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #67
I agree with that. I guess I was primarily speaking to the poster's Maru Kitteh 2 hrs ago #83
This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh 3 hrs ago #76
Bingo. See reply at #39 harumph 9 hrs ago #46
How about putting the other changes in place MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #68
They WHERE CALLED ELECTIONS now they are called how do we screw the voters and keep them from voting. usaf-vet 12 hrs ago #10
which, of course - doesn't address the subject (or point made) in the OP in the slightest ... - - -(nt)- stopdiggin 10 hrs ago #43
I agree PatSeg 12 hrs ago #11
we need real term limits..two terms and out... agingdem 11 hrs ago #12
I've been preaching this for years. Not to mention the revolving door to lobbying would accelerate... themaguffin 11 hrs ago #13
Term limits are aniicemocratic. If they've been there too long vote em out. tirebiter 11 hrs ago #14
There are so many things that need to be reformed before we can even consider term limits ibegurpard 11 hrs ago #15
Preach! ybbor 11 hrs ago #16
The problem is gerrymandering, not term limits. Emile 11 hrs ago #17
I've been arguing against term limits for years. Martin Eden 11 hrs ago #18
Very difficult to overcome incumbent name recognition MichMan 2 hrs ago #81
Every citizen should recognize the name of their representative in the House and both senators Martin Eden 59 min ago #87
Totally agree DownriverDem 11 hrs ago #19
I'll take it a step further Polybius 11 hrs ago #20
let's hold off until trump is out. We don't need to give him even more incentive to fuck things up. themaguffin 11 hrs ago #22
He's more unpopular than ever now though Polybius 11 hrs ago #23
Obama isn't going to run. Getting past this shit show is priority 1 themaguffin 9 hrs ago #61
at this point - cab67 5 hrs ago #70
100% agree. The best argument against term limits is this question: Pototan 11 hrs ago #21
I like that analogy. tinrobot 11 hrs ago #29
No question homegirl 40 min ago #89
Yes! radical noodle 11 hrs ago #24
If elections define one's term . . . otchmoson 11 hrs ago #25
it just empowers staffers. mopinko 11 hrs ago #26
Yes, because it's important to have octogenerians driving our culture relayerbob 11 hrs ago #27
Thank you. We need to fix election financing, gerrymandering, and the electoral college. tinrobot 11 hrs ago #28
I would make one exception - cab67 10 hrs ago #30
there is no way to remove Supreme Court justices ibegurpard 10 hrs ago #32
Please stop telling people what to consider/debate Mysterian 10 hrs ago #31
How about for SCOTUS? CaptainTruth 10 hrs ago #33
The voters NEVER got a choice there stopdiggin 9 hrs ago #52
Yes, clearly. And I still think it makes sense to have term limits for SCOTUS. CaptainTruth 9 hrs ago #60
I'm in favor of 8 years for SC Justices LogDog75 5 hrs ago #71
Interesting. Thanks for sharing! CaptainTruth 3 hrs ago #80
I agree with you and add this point: Mr. Mustard 2023 10 hrs ago #34
Make them fill out job applications leftstreet 10 hrs ago #36
What we need is campaign finance reform Beausoleil 10 hrs ago #38
I used to be in the no term limits camp - not anymore. harumph 10 hrs ago #39
except that 'term limits' doesn't really address any of the aggrievements you have with the system stopdiggin 9 hrs ago #49
I think we need an age limit for service Mosby 10 hrs ago #40
You are right. I was so impressed with our Dems in Congress during the Ghislaine Bondi hearings this past weekend Maraya1969 10 hrs ago #41
I believe in term limits. Layzeebeaver 10 hrs ago #42
Term limits has always been the province of the low brow, bumper sticker mentality stopdiggin 10 hrs ago #44
Term limits don't solve a single problem. Its a populist slogan that adds zero value to anything. FascismIsDeath 10 hrs ago #45
I'm a believer in term limits. However, back during the Gingrich days, the repugs talked term limits until they got Wonder Why 9 hrs ago #47
Do you favor repeal of the 22nd amendment? n/t Shrek 9 hrs ago #48
Both that and the age-baiting arguments have too many flaws Torchlight 9 hrs ago #50
We already have term limits: the voting cycle. Get the vote out. Stop accepting your vote means nothing ... marble falls 9 hrs ago #51
Florida is the poster child for the corrupting influence of term limits. hay rick 9 hrs ago #53
B I.N.G.O. markodochartaigh 9 hrs ago #57
I disagree ABC123Easy 9 hrs ago #55
In my opinion - cab67 5 hrs ago #69
You may be able to pass laws to limit partisan gerrymandering, BUT . . . markpkessinger 4 hrs ago #73
Agreed! ABC123Easy 2 hrs ago #82
WHY IS NOBODY SAYING the bottom line. markodochartaigh 9 hrs ago #56
Example: what if Chris Murphy of Adam Schiff were ALBliberal 9 hrs ago #58
I am with you on this. pandr32 9 hrs ago #59
Agreed, for additional reasons: Exp 9 hrs ago #62
Nationalization of politics, blaming those crooks off in Washington, Drain the Swamp. But not their own reps! betsuni 9 hrs ago #63
Completely agree! MatthewStLouis 8 hrs ago #64
Agree completely. Term limits are really just a limit on Democracy. It's telling voters they can't have their chosen tritsofme 8 hrs ago #66
I favor term limits for Executive offices and Supreme Courts LogDog75 4 hrs ago #72
Sorry I still support an Amendment for term limits. Lifetime seats have gotten ridiculous. Callie1979 4 hrs ago #74
Citizen's United is the "corporate wet dream" that term limits, well, limits Dave says 3 hrs ago #77
I whole heartedly agree 👍 Figarosmom 3 hrs ago #78
Agreed! People only want term limits when the don't like who's in office. JohnnyRingo 3 hrs ago #79
Why is it that people think they have a right to censors others' posts and thoughts iemanja 2 hrs ago #84
Can we at least change the presidential term limit to 1 week for this presidency only? mdbl 1 hr ago #86
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