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MadameButterfly

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100. We have the same goal, I just think it's important to see these two issues separately

Tue Feb 17, 2026, 09:33 AM

Feb 17

The people fighting campaign finance reform are the billionaires and corporations.

The people fighting term limits are more varied. Some are incumbents wanting to stay in power. Some are people who believe that once we get rid of most incumbents, the oligarchy will have all the power. Before all these 70+ year old incumbents got elected we didn't have Citizens United. It could be rough when they go.

Some who oppose term limits are people who value the experience and expertise of people who have been in office for a while. Who want it to be worth it for the best and brightest to make a career of serving in Congress; worth the effort to fund-raise and risk losing it all the next go round for a chance at staying around long enough to have a make a difference.

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Please, stop with the TERM LIMITS bs. [View all] 4bonhoffer Feb 2026 OP

You are so right. Americanme Feb 2026 #1

That's a good point Conjuay Feb 2026 #2

Same! EuterpeThelo Feb 2026 #9

re: "Agreed we should primary those who aren't effective" thesquanderer Feb 2026 #54

I agree with you. Its ridiculous. Callie1979 Feb 2026 #75

100% Right on! NT CommonHumanity Feb 2026 #3

I think that the longer someone stays in politics, the more likely they have convictions. everyonematters Feb 2026 #4

Yes, or to feather their nest, lately that's the goal Walleye Feb 2026 #6

The problem is that the LACK of term limits is what allows members of Congress to gain more seniority, pnwmom Feb 2026 #90

I agree 100%, besides it's unconstitutional, not that that matters anymore Walleye Feb 2026 #5

How is it unconstitutional? iemanja Feb 2026 #85

The Constitution sets the qualification for representatives and senators. TomSlick Feb 2026 #88

Ok iemanja Feb 17 #94

I asked Google, they gave the specific Supreme Court case Walleye Feb 17 #98

Term limits who have deprived us . . Michiblue Feb 2026 #7

There are just as many good reasons for term limits as there are bad ones. sop Feb 2026 #8

+1 leftstreet Feb 2026 #35

We need campaign finance reform MadameButterfly Feb 2026 #37

Because they are two sides of the same bright, shiny coin. Maru Kitteh Feb 2026 #65

i also object to the party putting thumbs on the scale to promote the leadership's MadameButterfly Feb 2026 #67

I agree with that. I guess I was primarily speaking to the poster's Maru Kitteh Feb 2026 #83

We have the same goal, I just think it's important to see these two issues separately MadameButterfly Feb 17 #100

This message was self-deleted by its author Maru Kitteh Feb 2026 #76

Bingo. See reply at #39 harumph Feb 2026 #46

How about putting the other changes in place MadameButterfly Feb 2026 #68

They WHERE CALLED ELECTIONS now they are called how do we screw the voters and keep them from voting. usaf-vet Feb 2026 #10

which, of course - doesn't address the subject (or point made) in the OP in the slightest ... - - -(nt)- stopdiggin Feb 2026 #43

I agree PatSeg Feb 2026 #11

we need real term limits..two terms and out... agingdem Feb 2026 #12

Even for the House, where each term is only 2 years? ShazzieB Feb 17 #101

I've been preaching this for years. Not to mention the revolving door to lobbying would accelerate... themaguffin Feb 2026 #13

Term limits are aniicemocratic. If they've been there too long vote em out. tirebiter Feb 2026 #14

There are so many things that need to be reformed before we can even consider term limits ibegurpard Feb 2026 #15

Preach! ybbor Feb 2026 #16

The problem is gerrymandering, not term limits. Emile Feb 2026 #17

I've been arguing against term limits for years. Martin Eden Feb 2026 #18

Very difficult to overcome incumbent name recognition MichMan Feb 2026 #81

Every citizen should recognize the name of their representative in the House and both senators Martin Eden Feb 2026 #87

I believe name recognition is a significant factor for many voters MichMan Feb 2026 #91

And THAT is why our representative democracy is so dysfunctional Martin Eden Feb 2026 #93

Totally agree DownriverDem Feb 2026 #19

I'll take it a step further Polybius Feb 2026 #20

let's hold off until trump is out. We don't need to give him even more incentive to fuck things up. themaguffin Feb 2026 #22

He's more unpopular than ever now though Polybius Feb 2026 #23

Obama isn't going to run. Getting past this shit show is priority 1 themaguffin Feb 2026 #61

at this point - cab67 Feb 2026 #70

100% agree. The best argument against term limits is this question: Pototan Feb 2026 #21

I like that analogy. tinrobot Feb 2026 #29

No question homegirl Feb 2026 #89

Yes! radical noodle Feb 2026 #24

If elections define one's term . . . otchmoson Feb 2026 #25

it just empowers staffers. mopinko Feb 2026 #26

Yes, because it's important to have octogenerians driving our culture relayerbob Feb 2026 #27

Thank you. We need to fix election financing, gerrymandering, and the electoral college. tinrobot Feb 2026 #28

I would make one exception - cab67 Feb 2026 #30

there is no way to remove Supreme Court justices ibegurpard Feb 2026 #32

Seems like a reasonable idea. calimary Feb 17 #103

Please stop telling people what to consider/debate Mysterian Feb 2026 #31

How about for SCOTUS? CaptainTruth Feb 2026 #33

The voters NEVER got a choice there stopdiggin Feb 2026 #52

Yes, clearly. And I still think it makes sense to have term limits for SCOTUS. CaptainTruth Feb 2026 #60

I'm in favor of 8 years for SC Justices LogDog75 Feb 2026 #71

Interesting. Thanks for sharing! CaptainTruth Feb 2026 #80

I agree with you and add this point: Mr. Mustard 2023 Feb 2026 #34

Make them fill out job applications leftstreet Feb 2026 #36

What we need is campaign finance reform Beausoleil Feb 2026 #38

I used to be in the no term limits camp - not anymore. harumph Feb 2026 #39

except that 'term limits' doesn't really address any of the aggrievements you have with the system stopdiggin Feb 2026 #49

I think we need an age limit for service Mosby Feb 2026 #40

You are right. I was so impressed with our Dems in Congress during the Ghislaine Bondi hearings this past weekend Maraya1969 Feb 2026 #41

I believe in term limits. Layzeebeaver Feb 2026 #42

Term limits has always been the province of the low brow, bumper sticker mentality stopdiggin Feb 2026 #44

Term limits don't solve a single problem. Its a populist slogan that adds zero value to anything. FascismIsDeath Feb 2026 #45

I'm a believer in term limits. However, back during the Gingrich days, the repugs talked term limits until they got Wonder Why Feb 2026 #47

Do you favor repeal of the 22nd amendment? n/t Shrek Feb 2026 #48

Both that and the age-baiting arguments have too many flaws Torchlight Feb 2026 #50

We already have term limits: the voting cycle. Get the vote out. Stop accepting your vote means nothing ... marble falls Feb 2026 #51

Florida is the poster child for the corrupting influence of term limits. hay rick Feb 2026 #53

B I.N.G.O. markodochartaigh Feb 2026 #57

I disagree ABC123Easy Feb 2026 #55

In my opinion - cab67 Feb 2026 #69

You may be able to pass laws to limit partisan gerrymandering, BUT . . . markpkessinger Feb 2026 #73

Agreed! ABC123Easy Feb 2026 #82

It doesn't solve it for the Senate The Revolution Feb 17 #97

WHY IS NOBODY SAYING the bottom line. markodochartaigh Feb 2026 #56

Example: what if Chris Murphy of Adam Schiff were ALBliberal Feb 2026 #58

I am with you on this. pandr32 Feb 2026 #59

Agreed, for additional reasons: Exp Feb 2026 #62

Nationalization of politics, blaming those crooks off in Washington, Drain the Swamp. But not their own reps! betsuni Feb 2026 #63

Completely agree! MatthewStLouis Feb 2026 #64

Agree completely. Term limits are really just a limit on Democracy. It's telling voters they can't have their chosen tritsofme Feb 2026 #66

I favor term limits for Executive offices and Supreme Courts LogDog75 Feb 2026 #72

Sorry I still support an Amendment for term limits. Lifetime seats have gotten ridiculous. Callie1979 Feb 2026 #74

Dingell family from Detroit area MichMan Feb 2026 #92

Perfect example. I wasnt aware of John Sr; 93 YEARS!!?? This is exactly the problem. Callie1979 Feb 17 #99

Citizen's United is the "corporate wet dream" that term limits, well, limits Dave says Feb 2026 #77

I whole heartedly agree 👍 Figarosmom Feb 2026 #78

Agreed! People only want term limits when the don't like who's in office. JohnnyRingo Feb 2026 #79

Why is it that people think they have a right to censors others' posts and thoughts iemanja Feb 2026 #84

Censoring posts and thoughts happens every day here Shrek Feb 17 #102

Can we at least change the presidential term limit to 1 week for this presidency only? mdbl Feb 2026 #86

Term limits are stupid AncientOfDays Feb 17 #95

I absolutely support term limits and age limits for government. No more geriatric politicians. Melon Feb 17 #96