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Bluetus

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54. I fully suppoprt everyone's right to all of that
Tue Feb 17, 2026, 03:39 PM
Feb 17

In the great faith versus science debate, we have zero facts to support faith, but we may have only a 1% understanding of the universe from a scientific standpoint, so I don't see either side of that argument (if there is an argument) having a strong position. I don't start from a position of actively involved gods. But there is so much we don't yet understand about the universe, I don't think anything can be ruled out.

For example, science has established with strong evidence that there was a "big bang" and many decades of measurements seem to confirm that was about 14 billion Earth-years ago. For a long time, the prevailing thinking was that eventually the universe would stop expanding, and would eventually shrink back to a single point, and who knows what would happen after that?

But then, in 1933, the idea of "dark matter" was proposed. It was not until the 1970s that real measurements provided scientific evidence that dark matter exists. But even today, we can't measure it directly and prevailing thinking is that the invisible matter is actually much greater that the matter visible to us. That supported the theory that the universe would eventually collapse.

Until ... in 1998, "dark energy" was discovered, giving support to the ever-expanding universe theory. But the same mathematics that enabled those findings also predict MULTIPLE universes. etc etc etc.

What I am getting at is, one could regard the physics of our universe(s) to be a form of "god". So nobody really knows about any of this for sure, and we are nowhere near a scientific certainty about the future of the universe. So we all just try to get through life understanding things the best way we can. I think an active "eye on the sparrow" god is quite unlikely, but I can't tell you how the universe was created and how the laws of physics came to be. Did a "god" decide all that?

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Oh no. mzmolly Feb 16 #1
Gosh, it's about time for one of these. It's been more than a week if you don't count Canada. Ocelot II Feb 16 #2
Terrible. senseandsensibility Feb 16 #3
Looks like two dead malaise Feb 16 #6
I thought you said: Shooting at a Hockey competition. chouchou Feb 16 #4
I did malaise Feb 16 #5
She did say that obamanut2012 Feb 16 #13
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In this country we call that Monday. Vinca Feb 16 #8
Jfc SuzyandPuffpuff Feb 16 #9
You forgot malaise Feb 16 #10
Yes! BeneteauBum Feb 16 #27
Coverage by The Guardian Beringia Feb 16 #11
Thanks malaise Feb 16 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author Mosby Feb 16 #25
Another trans shooter Chuuku Davis Feb 17 #38
I'll bet that granular detail is lsn't brought up or discussed much here. BannonsLiver Feb 17 #39
I guess I haven't been thinking and praying hard enough. Bluetus Feb 16 #14
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Be that as it may, we have the power to solve our problems in this life on this planet, here and now. Bluetus Feb 17 #44
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I fully suppoprt everyone's right to all of that Bluetus Feb 17 #54
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I'm old enough to remember when school shootings were above the fold news. aeromanKC Feb 16 #15
Old enough to remember we had ZERO. Columbine which was the first and a unique tragedy. Now it is the norm. Thanks NRA Evolve Dammit Feb 16 #17
Yep. WHEN do we finally get over the so-called love affair with guns? calimary Feb 16 #20
It will never stop here. It is a uniquely "American problem." I have two daughters that were in multiple lockdowns over Evolve Dammit Feb 17 #55
sad and strange BlueWaveNeverEnd Feb 16 #16
Hooray for guns! PoindexterOglethorpe Feb 16 #18
I would, too. calimary Feb 16 #21
What THE FUCK is WRONG with people ??!!!! Exp Feb 16 #19
Trump derangement syndrome BeneteauBum Feb 16 #28
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Pardon me BeneteauBum Feb 17 #45
"Trump Derangement Syndrome" is a INSULT directed at Democrats. Mosby Feb 17 #50
I think the ones with Trump Derangement Syndrome are the MAGATS. Emile Feb 17 #52
Agreed BeneteauBum Feb 17 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author BeneteauBum Feb 17 #59
Oh my BeneteauBum Feb 17 #60
I understand your position Mosby Feb 17 #61
More from W--Providence--Rhode Island (WPRI) news Beringia Feb 16 #22
WTaF UpInArms Feb 16 #29
Robert (Roberta) Dorman was identified as the shooter Mosby Feb 16 #32
Thank you for the updated information UpInArms Feb 17 #35
I wish that every time one of these horrific slaughters takes place 3catwoman3 Feb 17 #51
Good effin grief malaise Feb 17 #47
Violence at a hockey game? Shocking! johnp3907 Feb 16 #23
Lord have mercy. MIButterfly Feb 16 #24
It will end when we take back the billionaire owned media. Initech Feb 16 #26
'Merika. James48 Feb 16 #30
This is tragic. yellow dahlia Feb 16 #31
The second one in a few weeks(Canada) where the shooter was clearly identified as mentally ill Melon Feb 17 #36
She Chuuku Davis Feb 17 #37
Definitely had mental health issues. That much is clear. BannonsLiver Feb 17 #40
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Heartbreaking Torchlight Feb 17 #46
Here in Canada we're still mourning the BC shooting. Swede Feb 17 #49
This is a tragedy, and, will only further the message that trans people are inherently dangerous and shouldn't exist. Oneironaut Feb 17 #53
Yes, I see ForgedCrank Feb 17 #62
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