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Sympthsical

(10,935 posts)
31. So just going to ignore entirely what I said
Wed Feb 25, 2026, 10:21 AM
Wednesday

It's a shame. This Gillibrand stuff was a misogynistic bs campaign from Day One by people whose feathers were ruffled that she wasn't genuflecting appropriately at the altar of the party's power couple.

And that this is perpetuated uncritically in Democratic spaces out of intrapartisan motivation rather than an exploration on how a woman was attacked by our own after criticizing a man for bad behavior is depressing.

Expected, but depressing.

As I said, it should not have been that easy to get that narrative going, but it was.

Maybe it's because I'm a Millennial and I've never held various figures in the party in the same awe or deference. Their little campaign against Gillibrand didn't fly with me then. I don't accept it now.

But go with it. It's so helpful! Surely we're in such a place as a country and a party that we can take swipes at solid party members for no reason whatsoever. How useful.

But seriously, it really is something people don't see how it looks to continuously - for years - hold one woman singularly responsible for collective behavior on the topic of men behaving not so great. We're supposed to be the party of women, ffs. How does this one keep flying under the radar? It's like zombie shittery that just doesn't go away.

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Has Warren? Has Sanders? Has Booker? SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #1
i thought it was one picture samsingh Wednesday #6
No SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #7
And those accusations were absurd PatSeg Wednesday #18
Hannity and Stone were only involved with the first accuser SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #25
"Franken is doing fine"? PatSeg Wednesday #30
Is he broke and homeless? SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #33
It's not how he is doing that is the issue; it's that the electorate was denied one of the best senators ever. Amaryllis Wednesday #41
First he could have run again but hasn't SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #43
Thank you!!! Eom Karma13612 Wednesday #89
It's not about him, it's about us. We are missing out. Pompoy Wednesday #83
How? SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #85
That isn't the measure MadameButterfly Wednesday #112
Maybe so SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #114
He regrets stepping down MadameButterfly Wednesday #116
I'm sure he does SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #117
No, I will not let it go. He did NOTHING wrong. Ferrets are Cool Wednesday #44
Republicans, and some Democrats, have done far worse SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #46
It was a comedy skit..eom Karma13612 Wednesday #93
Yes the picture was SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #101
OK... eom Karma13612 21 hrs ago #127
Interesting that he lives in NYC now. SunSeeker Wednesday #79
He could have run for mayor SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #81
Gillibrand was just re-elected in 2024. Quiet Em Wednesday #84
She flamed out running Karma13612 Wednesday #92
She got over one million more votes for Senator than the con artist did at the top of the ticket. Quiet Em Wednesday #94
I'm in NYS Karma13612 Wednesday #96
If Schumer retires, AOC will run for his seat. Quiet Em Wednesday #98
That's true SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #102
She managed a photo op? MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #105
More than one SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #113
Where are the "eight others" now? MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #104
They probably have SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #110
That's the false narrative iemanja Wednesday #118
Five Democratic Senators who urged Al to resign ran for President in 2020 DFW Wednesday #11
Harris did get to be VP in 20 SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #13
Indeed she did DFW Wednesday #14
But Gillibrand was the loudest and shriekiest Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #37
Harris was not far behind. DFW Wednesday #61
Whataboutism. Jilly_in_VA Wednesday #65
She definitely took credit for it lame54 Wednesday #78
YES, she will MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #106
My senator in Oregon did to but he came Tree Lady Wednesday #54
I'm not so sure he even intended to run for president DFW Wednesday #59
I guess people just hoped he would Tree Lady Wednesday #66
There was PLENTY of that DFW Wednesday #70
Several Democratic Senators have since apologized to him for their statements urging him to resign. DFW Wednesday #60
They were not the only ones. iemanja Wednesday #121
Only ONE person caused Al Franken to quit. 31st Street Bridge Wednesday #28
Oh, sure DFW Wednesday #62
No, I don't; but a family member does 31st Street Bridge Wednesday #64
So do I DFW Wednesday #68
We need fighters, not people who are going to surrender when the going gets tough 31st Street Bridge Wednesday #71
He was 66 with a deteriorating hip condition with over 40 Democratic Senators who were there to back him up DFW Wednesday #74
Amy Klobuchar didn't even defend him. SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #76
It must have been awful for him. AloeVera Wednesday #97
Schumer was one of two final insults DFW Wednesday #99
Did you ever consider that maybe Al was guilty? 31st Street Bridge 19 hrs ago #131
Since I had known him for years prior to this, plus DFW 16 hrs ago #132
Seems it was all staged outrage that overwhelmed more naive legislators 31st Street Bridge 15 hrs ago #133
Seems the current administration can withstand any attack 31st Street Bridge 20 hrs ago #129
I don't think that's fair SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #75
Bullshit MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #107
More like he deserted our party 31st Street Bridge 20 hrs ago #130
Gillibrand led the charge RVN VET71 22 hrs ago #124
Making a Facebook post is leading the charge? SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #125
GREAT POINT MoseShrute Wednesday #2
Thank you. She certainly led the charge and ginned-up others to follow. QueerDuck Wednesday #3
Actually it was Schumer who led the charge SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #9
I'm aware of his role too. She was the face of it all... QueerDuck Wednesday #10
The corporate media made her the face of it SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #12
So she played into the hands of the "corporate media" ... interesting take. QueerDuck Wednesday #24
No it's those who continue to attack her and only her SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #32
I will always defend him and stand up to the bullies who characterize his resignation as ... QueerDuck Wednesday #38
Never said that his resignation was SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #40
So by not recognizing the saboteurs and denying their motives... QueerDuck Wednesday #51
So every woman that accused him was a saboteur? SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #52
What about his apology for giving people reason to mistrust him? EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #58
The damage had been done. Do do otherwise, even if justified, would have been to prolong an... QueerDuck Wednesday #91
The root cause is still Franken then EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #95
. MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #108
That is how I recall it PatSeg Wednesday #21
You are correct. There was much more going on. I remember, too. QueerDuck Wednesday #27
And to make matters even worse, PatSeg Wednesday #35
Hear, hear. peppertree Wednesday #39
Yes, it wasn't so much about sexual misconduct, PatSeg Wednesday #55
Why are you unwilling to accept Franken's account in which he blames Schumer? delisen Wednesday #57
Yes, he was on her bandwagon, as I've said. The damage was done, and had he not piled on, it would have... QueerDuck Wednesday #90
I don, t believe I made the point you are attributing to me.nt delisen Wednesday #100
K & R malaise Wednesday #4
Good question samsingh Wednesday #5
Post removed Post removed Wednesday #8
No MustLoveBeagles Wednesday #15
I see the "blame the woman" narrative endures Sympthsical Wednesday #16
My point is she was more concerned about taking down a political rival than protecting women. Chasstev365 Wednesday #17
But you're singling her out Sympthsical Wednesday #19
Because she used a situation to eliminate Franken purely as a political rival: NOT COOL! Chasstev365 Wednesday #22
So just going to ignore entirely what I said Sympthsical Wednesday #31
I didn't miss your point; I simply don't agree with you! Chasstev365 Wednesday #34
Where is the evidence of that? SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #36
https://apnews.com/article/kirsten-gillibrand-andrew-cuomo-al-franken-resignation-a3735f0f78ed6a8949b34cbc82239023 Chasstev365 Wednesday #48
That article doesn't prove your accusation SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #49
"Eventually." She did NOT rush to judgement like she did with Franken. I just proved the point! Chasstev365 Wednesday #50
She and 38 other Senators took almost a month from the first accusation SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #53
Political rival? karynnj Wednesday #45
Politcal rival? Quiet Em Wednesday #63
Don't confuse them with facts SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #67
I don't even understand where that logic comes from. Quiet Em Wednesday #69
There is no logic in demonization SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #73
"Them"? MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #109
Have a nice day! SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #115
NEVER! Clouds Passing Wednesday #20
WILL NEVER FORGIVE HER OR FORGET..... a kennedy Wednesday #23
Look at all the whataboutism here Fullduplexxx Wednesday #26
Yes, the "multiple wrongs make a right" attitude is something TiberiusB Wednesday #47
Here is Jane Meyer's story suegeo Wednesday #56
Due process is a judicial standard SocialDemocrat61 Wednesday #72
You betcha... PCIntern Wednesday #29
Who is your Senator? Quiet Em Wednesday #42
As a Minnesotan . . . Scubamatt Wednesday #77
Will you ever forgive Bernie Sanders? Jose Garcia Wednesday #80
Will you ever forgive Kamala Harris? Jose Garcia Wednesday #82
She was definitely the loudest. Kingofalldems Wednesday #86
Thank you! Chasstev365 Wednesday #87
The women-blaming narrative requires putting the blame on her iemanja Wednesday #120
Yes, women should be quiet, especially when sexual harassment is being discussed Jose Garcia 21 hrs ago #128
Nice one!!!! I'll second that!!! Karma13612 Wednesday #88
It was such an OBVIOUS right wing smear MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #103
Ditto. I will never support Gillibrand in any way shape or form. I even called up her office and told her staffers that PatrickforB Wednesday #111
Bernie too? Kamala? iemanja Wednesday #119
Absolutely Al graycampervan Wednesday #122
No, that was Ted Kennedy SocialDemocrat61 22 hrs ago #126
Gillibrand BGRD Yesterday #123
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