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paleotn

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37. Do you actually believe Trump and his clown car can think that deeply or that far ahead?
Sun Mar 1, 2026, 05:43 PM
Mar 1

Last edited Sun Mar 1, 2026, 06:35 PM - Edit history (1)

I have serious doubts. And your comment on cost of goods from China is simplistic. Yes, cheap oil helps some, but that's only a small part of the equation.

Do you know that China accounted for more than half of ALL renewable energy installations in 2025? Over 430 gigawatts. They're up to 3.3 TERAwatts in renewable sources now. Over a third of their energy consumption and 3 times the renewable infrastructure as the US.

Edited to take out the harshness. Sorry about that. Cost of good produced is a corner of my world. The things driving Chinese costs right now are still cheap labor, though not nearly as cheap as it once was, massive government subsidies, and extraordinarily high volume. They've addressed their increasing labor costs by introducing huge amounts of automation. And not AI driving automation. Just interesting modifications of off the shelf robotics that's been around for years. "Lights out" production is a thing there now, where the only humans are maybe a couple of techs wandering around somewhere making sure the equipment doesn't catch on fire or the few tasks not yet automated. They're significantly ahead of US and European production facilities in that.

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What are "oil prudes" flamingdem Mar 1 #1
Thank you. I edited. Melon Mar 1 #2
Oil Prudes are easily shocked by matters relating to sex or nudity. IronLionZion Mar 1 #39
Poor oil prudes. So puritannical flamingdem Mar 2 #49
OIl Prudes live a repressed joyless life IronLionZion Mar 2 #50
So we're pushing China to step up their shift away feom oil. 3_Limes Mar 1 #3
There is no pushing. China will pursue renewables Melon Mar 1 #9
Good point! 3_Limes Mar 1 #20
Renewables? Really? NNadir Mar 1 #33
Just saw this. Absolutely correct. Melon Mar 1 #44
So called "renewables" can't help. NNadir Mar 1 #46
Ok. I think of things more in line to the scale of the issue. Melon Mar 1 #47
Can you tell me KT2000 Mar 1 #4
Iran is lashing out at what they can hit. Melon Mar 1 #10
thank you KT2000 Mar 1 #21
Giving them way too much credit... lame54 Mar 1 #5
Putin is not irrational and he runs Trump. yardwork Mar 1 #38
Interesting - thanks for sharing. Dan Mar 1 #6
China will continue to buy oil. Melon Mar 1 #13
I think you're missing the bigger issue pcdb Mar 1 #25
Ok. So that would just further weaken the BRICS Melon Mar 1 #27
Do you think the trumpers are aware of this card cachukis Mar 1 #7
I don't know about common trumpets. Melon Mar 1 #15
So then, if China has to pay more for oil, and they cachukis Mar 1 #22
I'm not sure if you are American or itger Melon Mar 1 #24
Thanks. Great perspective. cachukis Mar 1 #48
Been thinking overnight about your response that cachukis Mar 2 #53
This just brings some rationing in China. Frasier Balzov Mar 1 #8
There is no rationing. Oil is plentiful right now. Melon Mar 1 #16
I don't see any of his actions helping us against China. Quite the opposite in fact. Jbraybarten Mar 1 #11
I don't see it either...they want an excuse is all. There are no excuses that can suffice. Demsrule86 Mar 1 #14
It absolutely does. Melon Mar 1 #18
You don't have to be limited to one finger. You could speak your posts into your phone/tablet.... Sogo Mar 1 #29
Ohhhh. I...need to learn obviously. Melon Mar 1 #30
Are you defending this? Trump has now killed Americans soldiers...no excuse. Demsrule86 Mar 1 #12
I am communicating data. I am sharing my market Melon Mar 1 #19
FFS malaise Mar 1 #17
Plus...it may not be advisable to credit TSF and this WH with multi-dimensional thinking of future wiggs Mar 1 #23
I turned them all off malaise Mar 1 #26
And the only reason the US did this was because Netanyahu knows how to manipulate Trump.... Sogo Mar 1 #31
Dig up Kushner's ex con daddy and Bibi malaise Mar 1 #32
Melon, you tried to share your expertise. 1WorldHope Mar 1 #28
It's not an argument situation. Is my view. Melon Mar 1 #35
Sounds like a description of how crime families operate. wnylib Mar 1 #34
In other words - It's easier to BULLY than to compete. nt Exp Mar 1 #36
Do you actually believe Trump and his clown car can think that deeply or that far ahead? paleotn Mar 1 #37
This message was self-deleted by its author Melon Mar 1 #40
I'm not sure what you think is simplistic? Melon Mar 1 #41
If oil prices rise, somebody will make more money -- so maybe it's a grift too! struggle4progress Mar 1 #42
Oil prices rising and staying right now is likely bad Melon Mar 1 #45
This makes a lot of sense. Putin runs Trump. yardwork Mar 1 #43
I appreciate your perspective. Thanks for posting Easterncedar Mar 2 #51
Oil is not "infrastructure" GreatGazoo Mar 2 #52
My simplistic take on this maxrandb Mar 2 #54
You are speaing as though they have a plan. Ferrets are Cool Mar 2 #55
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