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pat_k

(13,166 posts)
9. Bombing the shit out of a country does not "regime change" make.
Fri Mar 6, 2026, 12:34 AM
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I don't know where you are getting the notion that people here think the war is "going well" for Iran. I've seen no analysis or assertions that suggest that.

What I've seen is a lot of analysis and recognition that it is a shit show, and was destined to be such from the outset.

I've seen clear-eyed analyses from people with substantial expertise -- people like Tom Nichols -- that point to there being numerous paths to things getting WORSE, and a near zero chance of "regime change" for the better.

I've seen recognition of the fact that this war of aggression is a violation of international law and deeply immoral, not to mention that is is being prosecuted without the approval of Congress. (And NO, failure of the war powers bill to reign in the felon does NOT constitute authorization.) And in light of that, how "well" or "badly" the war is "going" for the United States or for Iran is irrelevant to the epic WRONGNESS.

The notion that decapitating the Iranian regime would somehow be sufficient was insane from the get go. And if you disagree, perhaps consider this post:

Let's talk about the magnitude of the IRGC/Basij military, industrial, economic conglomerate
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221070279

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And yet, the US does not have control of Iran on the ground Fiendish Thingy Friday #1
Why would the Kurds Trust the US, after (under TSF), they were so terribly Betrayed?? Nictuku Friday #5
I don't know that they trust the US Fiendish Thingy Friday #6
The Iranian people need to rise up Melon Friday #7
What vacuum? dpibel Friday #19
The Revolutionary guard is organized and well armed Fiendish Thingy Friday #22
And the Basij is vast pat_k Friday #27
There is NO "vacuum." Do you understand that the IRGC/Basij is a vast military, industrial, economic conglomerate... pat_k Friday #26
There is a vacuum in high level leadership for the mikitary Melon Friday #29
No. There isn't. pat_k Friday #30
When will we be greeted with rose petals? gab13by13 Friday #2
Two weeks. nt sheshe2 Friday #28
Duzy. nt KentuckyWoman Friday #48
You forgot the candy. choie Friday #57
I had some difficulties differentiating between Russia's rhetoric (vs Ukraine) and the US propaganda to Nictuku Friday #3
you mean the superfluous war that orange asshole started to take the focus off Epstein? NewHendoLib Friday #4
IMHO Epstein's connection to Likud's version of Israel requires closer inspection. PufPuf23 Friday #16
War in Iran bdamomma Friday #62
The issue is that one man made the decison to enter the country into a war. CentralMass Friday #8
Bombing the shit out of a country does not "regime change" make. pat_k Friday #9
when iranian's lives are more miserable due to trump than the ayatollahs what then nt msongs Friday #15
War of aggression is what people down south Melon Friday #36
There are still people who refer to it with that term. OldBaldy1701E Friday #70
Good Lord! vanessa_ca Friday #10
🙄 .... What nonsense.... Melon Friday #12
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Friday #11
Agreed. They rarely are. Melon Friday #20
If only everybody were as clear-sighted as you! Prairie Gates Friday #13
Think about this: How would the World's Catholics react if Iran Killed the Pope? Nictuku Friday #14
Post removed Post removed Friday #23
"There still be opportunities for gorilla actions" Prairie Gates Friday #25
'gorilla actions' lol SamuelTheThird Friday #38
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Friday #24
Or if we bombed Mecca or Rome? displacedvermoter Friday #61
Yeah, dude! Afghanistan was helpless against our might, too! dpibel Friday #17
Now that's the real point in all of this newdeal2 Friday #35
Afghanistan now is trying to attract tourist dollars Melon Friday #37
Enjoy your vacation True Dough Friday #51
I hate everything ours and Iran fascist regimes does but you are right yaesu Friday #18
There is a distinct difference between the Artesh (regular army) and the IRGC / Basij pat_k Friday #34
Its not all or nothing either way Cosmocat Friday #21
Trump will likely cut and run when he gets bored, price of oil gets too high or congress pushes him. LeftInTX Friday #31
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Friday #33
You've been demonstrably wrong about the war SamuelTheThird Friday #32
March 6: US and Israel bombing sites in Bandar Abbas, presumably to prevent more hits on shipping Prairie Gates Friday #67
Since you brought up "victory", let me ask you two questions. LudwigPastorius Friday #39
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Friday #40
I would bet against that happening. LudwigPastorius Friday #41
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Friday #43
As the OP said: dpibel Friday #42
I rec'd based on the hope but would moniss Friday #44
This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceWave Friday #45
"Democracy " is the imaginary clothing worn by the Emperor. AloeVera Friday #55
Just like what happened in Iraq, right? Scrivener7 Friday #64
(running out of missles) is simply not going to happen? Tell the Atlantic scipan Friday #46
We are winning their hearts and minds, right? BidenRocks Friday #47
90 million new terrorists birthed is what I see as an outcome... SonOfNebanaube Friday #56
Yesterday DU was called a pro-war board, today we're delusional about Iraq. What's next, we're ugly? betsuni Friday #49
Really Whip-poor-will Friday #50
I agree ._. Friday #52
Well - it's coming from somewhAIre. Scrivener7 Friday #63
There are 90 million people in Iran...I don't think bombs alone will make them do much of anything. pecosbob Friday #53
And the topography Cosmocat Friday #58
"They have no ability to meaningfully fight back." J_William_Ryan Friday #54
There is one thing here I always read. rzemanfl Friday #59
You're right. Iran has no real defense against our air assaults Buckeyeblue Friday #60
Two days ago Trump was all about Kurd boots on the ground, yesterday he said ground action Prairie Gates Friday #69
Probably. And he has to know that if he sends our troops in it'll be very unpopular Buckeyeblue Friday #71
Your simplistic OP explains how a circus clown fascist got control of the most powerful military in the world maxrandb Friday #65
I try to avoid the default position Torchlight Friday #66
Christiane Amanpour spoke with Jon Stewart on Iran Quiet Em Friday #68
It seems to me that they are doing a damn good job at fighting back. I am not the delusional one here. Ferrets are Cool Friday #72
The Iranian regime is going no where fast. nt BootinUp Friday #73
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